<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988</id><updated>2011-12-13T10:24:13.346-08:00</updated><category term='double honor'/><category term='church councils'/><category term='Etc.'/><category term='boards of elders'/><category term='pastors&apos; families'/><category term='podcast'/><category term='Eric and Polly'/><category term='the call'/><category term='Catechesis'/><category term='pastor envy'/><category term='contributors'/><category term='apostolicity'/><category term='doctrine'/><category term='fellowship'/><category term='types of pastors'/><category term='Royal Priesthood'/><category term='the idol of relevance'/><category term='sermons'/><category term='Pastor James'/><category term='Rev. Matt Harrison'/><category term='complaints'/><category term='sirens'/><category term='Luther'/><category term='postmodernism'/><category term='preach the word'/><category term='walther'/><category term='stay or go?'/><category term='screwtape'/><category term='compromise'/><category term='youth'/><category term='Preacherman'/><category term='consecration'/><category term='the call list'/><category term='pretense'/><category term='Sasse'/><category term='the Law'/><category term='humor'/><category term='Fourth Commandment'/><category term='conviction'/><category term='Erich'/><category term='Quote for the Day'/><category term='OHM'/><category term='vocation'/><category term='judgement'/><category term='Chemnitz'/><category term='the Voice of the Shepherd'/><category term='homiletics'/><category term='music'/><category term='secret ballots'/><category term='Urbanus Rhegius'/><category term='Admittance to the Holy Communion'/><category term='soundbites'/><category term='President Kieschnick'/><category term='apostolic succession'/><category term='This Blog'/><category term='circuit counselors'/><category term='Preaching'/><category term='Welcome'/><category term='communicating with pastors'/><category term='LCMS'/><category term='Rome'/><category term='the Church'/><category term='retreat'/><category term='Eric Liddell'/><category term='confession'/><category term='men without chests'/><category term='failure'/><category term='CCA'/><category term='Tolerance'/><category term='spiritual abuse'/><category term='Issues'/><title type='text'>TUEBOR:  Honoring the Office of Holy Ministry</title><subtitle type='html'>This blog will attempt to foster a fruitful public discussion on the role of laity in the support, encouragement, and defense of faithful ordained clergy who refuse to bow the knee to the idols of our day.  'For in our words we must speak modestly toward them and not address them roughly, haughtily, and defiantly, but yield to them and be silent.'  (from Martin Luther's Large Catechism.)</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' 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href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/father-hollywood-intro-to-book-of.html' title='Father Hollywood: Intro to the Book of Concord (Viewer Discretion Advised)'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2651391839921559274</id><published>2010-08-15T14:23:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-15T14:26:46.926-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Success</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;h3 class="UIIntentionalStory_Message" ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;msg&amp;quot;}" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); margin-top: 0px; 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Roger James&lt;br /&gt;Twelfth Sunday after Pentecost&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="UIIntentionalStory_Message" ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;msg&amp;quot;}" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-weight: normal; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; "&gt;&lt;span class="UIStory_Message"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Zion Lutheran Church&lt;br /&gt;Marshall, Michigan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://zionmarshall.org/mp3/2010/SERMON_2010_08_15.mp3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;http://zionmarshall.org/mp3/2010/SERMON_&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="word_break" style="display: block; float: left; margin-left: -10px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://zionmarshall.org/mp3/2010/SERMON_2010_08_15.mp3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;2010_08_15.mp3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2651391839921559274?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2651391839921559274/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2651391839921559274' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2651391839921559274'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2651391839921559274'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/success.html' title='Success'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6443317220193200969</id><published>2010-08-15T14:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-15T14:24:53.769-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I love a parade</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;"I respectfully disagree with the decision to invite deaconesses to process at the service for the installation of Synodical officers for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://concordiansisters.blogspot.com/2010/08/i-love-parade.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the following reasons...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://concordiansisters.blogspot.com/2010/08/i-love-parade.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;http://concordiansisters.blogspot.com/2010/08/i-love-parade.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6443317220193200969?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6443317220193200969/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6443317220193200969' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6443317220193200969'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6443317220193200969'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/concordian-sisters-of-perpetual.html' title='I love a parade'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6744567712743458666</id><published>2009-03-04T13:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-03-06T06:02:04.326-08:00</updated><title type='text'>BEICHTSPIEGEL</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;There are other, somewhat &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.lcceastdistrict.ca/Publications/SelfExam%20Reflection%20Booklet.pdf"&gt;simpler versions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; of "confessional mirrors", as well as this &lt;a href="http://www.markvpublications.com/preview.htm"&gt;Pruefungs-Tafel&lt;/a&gt; from 1914, but t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;he "teeth" of this particular &lt;a href="http://sites.google.com/site/lutheransandprocreation/Home/Beichtspiegel.pdf?attredirects=0"&gt;Beichtspiegel&lt;/a&gt; ("confessional mirror") are particularly helpful in my Lenten devotions, not to mention regular self-examination for holy Communion and confession and absolution. T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;his is the first time this particular Beichtspiegel has been made available online.   If you find any typographical errors, please let me know in a comment below so that I may correct them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This Beichtspiegel is published in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial;" href="http://www.emmanuelpress.us/"&gt;The Brotherhood Prayer Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Emmanuel Press, 2007&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; (www.emmanuelpress.us).  The authors, Rev. Michael Frese and Rev. Benjamin Mayes, compiled this "confessional mirror" from the writings of the best American and German Lutheran father-confessors.  The text is public domain and therefore may be formatted, copied, and distributed as much as you wish without copyright concerns.  You also have the blessings, explicit permission, and even encouragement of the authors to do so.  Though it is not required, please acknowledge the authors and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Brotherhood Prayer Book&lt;/span&gt;.  However, if you modify this text in any way, which you may certainly do if you wish, kindly do NOT mention the source.  May God bless your use of this &lt;a href="http://sites.google.com/site/lutheransandprocreation/Home/Beichtspiegel.pdf?attredirects=0"&gt;Beichtspiegel&lt;/a&gt; with fruit according to His will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SbErZg8P7RI/AAAAAAAAARk/cYRG6jAj0Xo/s1600-h/BPBtext.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 204px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SbErZg8P7RI/AAAAAAAAARk/cYRG6jAj0Xo/s320/BPBtext.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5310073152985885970" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Free Beichtspiegel download links:      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://sites.google.com/site/lutheransandprocreation/Home/Beichtspiegel.pdf?attredirects=0"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://sites.google.com/site/lutheransandprocreation/Home/Beichtspiegel.pdf?attredirects=0"&gt;PDF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://sites.google.com/site/lutheransandprocreation/Home/Beichtspiegel.doc?attredirects=0"&gt;MS Word&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;P.S. SPECIAL OFFER!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The text of this Beichtspiegel is from the paperback "Text Edition" of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;The Brotherhood Prayer Book&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;.  In connection with my posting of this Beichtspiegel text, Pr. Michael Frese has generously offered a big discount on the book during Lent.  The regular price is $20, but they are willing to sell it to you at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;$14.00 plus $2.50 shipping/handling&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; during this Lenten season. They will only accept a personal check for payment, however. Then you can have the psalms, propers, and the Beichtspiegel - all before Holy Week!  To take advantage of this offer, simply write an email to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;emmanuelpress@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; with the word "Beichtspiegel" in the subject line.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6744567712743458666?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6744567712743458666/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6744567712743458666' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6744567712743458666'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6744567712743458666'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2009/03/beichtspiegel.html' title='BEICHTSPIEGEL'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SbErZg8P7RI/AAAAAAAAARk/cYRG6jAj0Xo/s72-c/BPBtext.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6268959436356569464</id><published>2009-01-03T18:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-03T19:12:37.022-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Sacrament and the Church Under the Cross</title><content type='html'>After discussing with a friend his options in an area of the country that does not have any orthodox Lutheran churches, I had the following thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there was no Lutheran church in the area I live that is not in serious error to one degree or another, I would seek to attend whatever church publicly confesses the most essential doctrine of Christ's saving faith.  This might be a church that is not Lutheran, since many Lutheran churches these days are Lutheran in name only. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What matters most is the means of grace.  If there were no solid orthodox Lutheran congregation within reach, I would choose to attend a Lutheran church that has the body and blood of Christ in the Sacrament, even if it is obvious that the members and even the pastor are not in agreement with me on various other issues.  What will keep me and my family in the faith is not good preaching or orthodox liturgical niceties, but rather the basic food of the means of grace which creates and strengthens saving faith in me and my family. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not an excuse for staying in a heterodox church when an orthodox option exists within a practicable distance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could explain to my family (and have in the past) what is wrong with the preaching and teaching (in my own home after church), but I cannot by any means provide Christ's saving body and blood for myself or them in my home.  If we did not at least occasionally have access to the public reading of God's Word and to the Sacrament of Christ's body and blood, it would potentially have much more serious consequences than any other error I could think of in a church.  Even if the pastor is a rotten preacher or a scoundrel, if the reading of God's Word takes place through the Scripture readings, and the Sacrament is administered with confession of the true bodily presence of Christ, the Gospel will still be there in Word and Sacrament, with all of God's intended strength and purpose, to maintain and strengthen us in the true faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I attended a non-Lutheran church because the Gospel is rightly preached there and is not confessed rightly at any local Lutheran church, I still would not "join" that non-Lutheran congregation because doing so would be a false confession.  And, I would definitely never partake of "communion" at a church that does not confess the true bodily presence of Christ in the Sacrament.  If the church does not confess the true bodily presence of Christ, it is only bread and wine that is offered and received, and it also would be wrong to make a false confession by partaking of such a symbolic perversion of Christ's Holy Supper. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I also must confess that if it was impossible for my family to ever, in the foreseeable future, receive the Lord's Supper in a Lutheran church, I would consider the possibility of communing at a church that confesses the true bodily presence of Christ in the Sacrament.  Obviously this would probably be an Eastern Orthodox or a Roman Catholic church.  I realize, however, that many such parishes would likely (and rightly) not commune us unless we confessed agreement with them in doctrine. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not saying I would definitely commune at such a church under such dire circumstances.  I'm just saying I believe I would at least consider the possibility.  Let me explain...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christ comes to us in the most important, intimate, and faith-sustaining way through his bodily presence in the Sacrament of His body and blood, given for our salvation.  Through all the perversions the Church has experienced throughout the centuries, Christ's true bodily presence in the Sacrament was always confessed, and was still given and received. Even when the cup was withheld from the laity, Christ's true body was still given and received.  The continued administration of Christ's true body, sacrificed on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of the world, is the one consistent thing for over 2000 years that has always remained to ensure that Christians have been preserved and strengthened in the true faith. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is quite amazing to me, and I believe it shows Christ's endless love for his bride, the Church.  The Church is, and always has been, full of sinners, errors, and faulty preachers.  But we must seek Christ were He is most certainly found - that is in the Sacrament of His body and blood, given and shed for our forgiveness.  That was Christ's last will and testament, and it is the very food of immortality He continues to provide in endless supply today wherever His true bodily presence in the Sacrament is confessed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks be to God that this is only a theoretical discussion for me.  We attend a truly orthodox Confessional Lutheran church, and I agree with my pastor in doctrine and practice.  I am open to correction in anything I have written above.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6268959436356569464?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6268959436356569464/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6268959436356569464' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6268959436356569464'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6268959436356569464'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2009/01/sacrament-and-church-under-cross.html' title='The Sacrament and the Church Under the Cross'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-727502752434325723</id><published>2008-09-28T14:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-28T15:09:11.110-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Lutheran Manifesto</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SN_9ni8lCtI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/vlEexFOvnGY/s1600-h/luther2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SN_9ni8lCtI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/vlEexFOvnGY/s320/luther2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5251194546374904530" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Dear "men of Wittenberg",&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I urge you to read &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.petitiononline.com/luthmani/petition.html"&gt;this confessional statement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; carefully and, if you agree with it, affix your signature according to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.petitiononline.com/luthmani/petition-sign.html"&gt;instructions of the website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;.  As I understand it, this statement is not meant to be all-inclusive of the problems in our synod, but it can serve as a starting point.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There has been much discussion about the Manifesto on the &lt;a href="http://steadfastlutherans.org/blog/?p=667"&gt;Brothers of John the Steadfast website&lt;/a&gt;, where I believe it was first published.  &lt;a href="http://steadfastlutherans.org/blog/?p=667#comment-16372"&gt;Some&lt;/a&gt; of the negative comments I have read thus far are, in my opinion, inappropriate &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;ad hominem&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; arguments. Logically, it matters not how the manifesto was generated nor who generated it.  What matters is whether or not it expresses true doctrine.  I believe it does.  Otherwise I wouldn't have signed it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been praying for someone to write such a document, and I anticipate that it will be expanded and perfected through discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Doctrine divides.  This Manifesto is not unnecessarily divisive.  It is true to the Lutheran Confessions.  It is unifying.  A unity based on anything short of this Manifesto is false unity.  We need to boldly profess the truth in this age of anti-truth.   Satan hates a faithful confession, and the Manifesto is a faithful confession.  Let's turn up the volume!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I urge every Lutheran blogger and online Lutheran discussion participant to post a link to the Manifesto wherever they can.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; Let us start the discussion that might expand this faithful confession to address all the matters that divide our synod. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Let us, by the grace of God, "Honor the Office of Holy Ministry" as "men of Wittenberg" and "Brothers of John the Steadfast" by supporting pastors in Confessing the truth as expounded upon in this &lt;a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/luthmani/petition.html"&gt;Lutheran Manifesto&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-727502752434325723?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/727502752434325723/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=727502752434325723' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/727502752434325723'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/727502752434325723'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/09/lutheran-manifesto.html' title='A Lutheran Manifesto'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SN_9ni8lCtI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/vlEexFOvnGY/s72-c/luther2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-7526629477796545974</id><published>2008-08-04T04:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-04T13:37:56.490-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='youth'/><title type='text'>John Dewey and Confessional Pastors</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/John_Dewey.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/John_Dewey.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;"How about just telling people about Jesus and away with the stupid pastor tricks?  -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://www.issuesetc.org/podcast/Show17072208H1.mp3"&gt;Pastor Todd Wilken&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Since &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://steadfastlutherans.org/index.html"&gt;the Brothers of John the Steadfast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; have linked to this blog, I will begin to post some things here once in a while.  I turned down a column at BJS because life has handed me a lot right now.  But informally jotting down thoughts, observations, and questions here is less scary a commitment than actually having a responsibility to write and publish a column at something that feels more like an actual publication.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Writing here, I do not feel like I am afflicting anyone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Life is busy.  I am 47, my kids are mostly teenagers, and my mother, who has increasingly advanced-stage Alzheimers, lives with us and causes my wife and me a fair degree of stress.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I have also tentatively started another graduate degree in Educational Leadership at a Roman Catholic university, mainly because I have to take classes to keep my Michigan teaching certification. I am the only conservative dinosaur in my cohort.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;So vocations can be challenging.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;This summer, I took a class in curriculum development that has me thinking about another vocation, the Office of Holy Ministry, and with this post and a fair degree of trepidation, I would like to raise a question that has concerned me and a group of confessional youth that I took to a Lutheran youth conference this summer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;As a conservative educator, I have to incessantly fight against a great deal of liberal nonsense within public education.  The Progressive Education movement of the 20th century left an infamous and perhaps indelible mark upon American education, and in many ways, its specious and septic ideas of "relevance" and "student-centered instruction" mirrors much of the church growth movement's "seeker-sensitive" theories that have deeply damaged so many American churches, even within the LCMS.  These are problems that confessional Lutherans have rightly identified and eloquently opposed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;But admit it:  Most of us grew up attending public schools or  within institutions, even Lutheran schools, that had deeply imbibed the progressive beliefs of men like &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey"&gt;John Dewey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;.  These institutions have gone about their business, either knowingly or unknowingly, with progressive assumptions as their guiding influence. I have even been told that the Concordia University system's various schools of education have already drunk deeply from the noxious wells of progressive thought.  To quote an ex-administrator of the Concordia system who now works at Hillsdale College, "The Concordias don't know what they believe anymore!"   And to make matters worse, the 20th century also saw the rise of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://www.amazon.com/Amusing-Ourselves-Death-neil-postman/dp/B000H1M5GE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1217857622&amp;amp;sr=1-3"&gt;a pervasive entertainment culture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; with similar assumptions that teaching and preaching are obligated to fulfill the progressive mandate to "make learning fun."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Let's be honest:  The waters in which we swim have been muddied for many years now.  Even though we confessional Lutherans like to think that we are immune to such thinking, we are not, and it would be prudent to remember &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://www.amazon.com/Surely-Feynman-Adventures-Curious-Character/dp/0393316041"&gt;Richard Feynman's two rules of science:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ol  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Don't fool yourself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;You are the easiest person to fool.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Alas, I am now rambling, not only because, like Steve Martin, I'm a ramblin' guy, but also due to my fear of asking a question, as it might actually seem like I am not honoring the holy ministry, and that would be pretty  ironic for this blog, wouldn't it?  But here it goes, and I will pose it to my fellow Brothers of John the Steadfast.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;As I have already said, I was a group leader at a youth conference this summer, and my kids were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;bewildered &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;that there seemed to be a change in the teaching style at this conference, a change from the previous conferences that they had attended.  Confessional pastors were now joking around in excessive and awkward ways during the teaching times -- in ways that actually &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;undermined &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;the instruction -- and at least to my kids, in ways that insulted their intelligence and sense of propriety. To these teenagers, there seemed to be a failure by the pastors to remember the prudent distinctions of work, play, and worship.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;These teens in my group, in the conversations that I heard, were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;bewildered &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;as to why this goofy change had taken place in conferences that they had grown to love.  One sixteen-year-old girl complained:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"At other conferences, the speakers might joke a few minutes, but then they would shift to teaching and the teaching was serious.  I don't get why these speakers had to joke and goof around throughout the plenary sessions." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Again, these questions came from my youth, as I had never been to one of these conferences before, and these kids aren't whiners.  They're smart and they spoke out of theological conviction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;So how should laymen respond to this problem?  The temptation to listen to the likes of John Dewey and dumb things down in the name of being "student-centered" is always there for pastors and teachers alike, even for good guys like the confessional pastors at this conference.  Should lay folks just pray, keep quiet, and hope that other pastors will address it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Here is one more apparent example of John Dewey's influence that I noticed at the same conference.  The evaluation sheet that was used in each class that we attended had a question like this: "Did this class meet needs in your life?"  Or something like that.  The organizers of the conference seemed to be asking the kids what they wanted to be taught.  Was it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;relevant &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;to them?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;If this layman may be so bold, let me suggest that pastors need to go to the Word to define what the  needs of youth are.  Teenagers might flock to classes on sex, drugs, or rock and roll, as they always do, but they also need to go to classes like the one I attended on the Athanasian Creed, which was completely void of youth and also seemingly hidden in a small room that required the adults who attended to follow a maze of hallways and stairs.  As I looked for the room, I heard some adults engage in the following exchange, as they also tried to find the classroom:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"Looking for the Athanasian Creed?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Yep," the other answered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I guess this is where they put talks that aren't about sex."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Are the Creeds now irrelevant to the needs of youth?  How about the Augsburg Confesson?  They are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;most certainly relevant&lt;/span&gt; to teens, although as a teenage male, I would have most certainly chosen sex over Philip Melanchthon.  And that is why kids need adults and why we all need pastors, for regardless of what teenagers or anyone thinks they need, we all need the purity of the Gospel as so faithfully unpacked in our Confessions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, confessional pastors who oversee such conferences and retreats should develop "knowledge-centered" curricula that are based upon the Lutheran Confessions, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;curricula that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;are decidedly &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;"student-centered."  For when our youth are asked, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Do you find this class relevant to your life?"&lt;/span&gt; in evaluation forms, then I am afraid that Mr. John Dewey is in our midst.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;If this layman may once again be bold, let me also suggest that pastors involved in youth ministry need to step up and reject the tenets of the Progressive Education movement and the expectations of our entertainment-driven culture.  This will be difficult because, like fish not noticing the water in which they swim, cultural assumptions are often not explicit.  We do not naturally think about or even notice the prevailing philosophical waters in which we swim.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Older pastors also need to act like bishops and give younger pastors needed correction if their joking around actually undermines the public teaching of the Word.  To quote Pastor Klemet Preus, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"When we work, we work.  When we play, we play.  When we worship, we worship."  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;The temptation is always there to mix these things up.  Recently, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://www.issuesetc.org/podcast/Show17072208H1.mp3"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Issues, Etc. &lt;/span&gt;rightly ridiculed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; a pastor who started a motorcycle as a sermon illustration, and then accidentally drove it into the first few rows of pews.  Although it is unlikely that confessional pastors would do such a silly thing, there are certainly varying degrees of foolishness.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Brothers, confessional pastors who teach our youth, please beware of the temptation to pander to kids in the name of relevance or hipness.  The temptation is always standing at the door, and a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;s a teacher myself, I have also at times failed in resisting it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-7526629477796545974?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/7526629477796545974/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=7526629477796545974' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7526629477796545974'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7526629477796545974'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/08/john-dewey-and-confessional-pastors.html' title='John Dewey and Confessional Pastors'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5184299063989439811</id><published>2008-05-06T06:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-06T06:46:50.967-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Missourian Ecclesiology</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Below are the theses that C. F. W. Walther defended in the Altenburg Debate, which is considered the first major crisis in Missouri Lutheranism.  This  was a disputation held April 1841 at Altenburg, Perry Co., Missouri, on questions of church polity that had agitated Saxon immigrants since deposition of M. Stephan Sr.  The disputants were C. F. W. Walther and F. A. Marbach. Walther drew the constructive conclusions, partially modifying a position that Carl Vehse had taken.  We DESPERATELY need disputations on the issues that are agitating deep divisions within our synod today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I consider thesis VIII below to be the one Altenburg thesis that applies the most to our current crisis in Missouri.  What constitutes the "common public confession" of members (congregations and pastors) of the LCMS?  I would submit that as a result of a long history of neglected oversight, what is written on paper in Missouri does not represent the public confession of many members of the LCMS, or even of the corporation in Missouri.  Many members have deviated from this confession, publicly preaching and teaching and practicing contrary to orthodoxy.  Many have even removed "Lutheran" from their congregational names.  The public confession of the corporation called the "LCMS" is no longer the "COMMON" public confession of churches maintaining membership in the corporation.  The corporation is now even planting a large number of "mission" congregations which have no Lutheran identity, touting them as the "best practice" to emulate, and using our financial contributions to synod to do it.  The corporation has thus abandoned its public confession, outwardly confessing a foreign protestant doctrine of missiology referred to as "Ablaze!"  It is perhaps yet to be determined if the LCMS has reached the point of no return.  I believe we need disputations on the issues that divide us "so that those who are proven may be made manifest." [1 Cor. 11:19]  Is such a thing even possible in Missouri today?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Altenburg Theses&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I. The true Church, in the most real and most perfect sense, is the totality (Gesamtheit) of all true believers, who from the beginning to the end of the world from among all peoples and tongues have been called and sanctified by the Holy Spirit through the Word. And since God alone knows these true believers (2 Tim. 2:19), the Church is also called invisible. No one belongs to this true Church who is not spiritually united with Christ, for it is the spiritual body of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;II. The name of the true Church belongs also to all those visible companies of men among whom God's Word is purely taught and the holy Sacraments are administered according to the institution of Christ. True, in this Church there are godless men, hypocrites, and heretics, but they are not true members of it, nor do they constitute the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;III. The name Church, and, in a certain sense, the name true Church, belongs also to those visible companies of men who have united under the confession of a falsified faith and therefore have incurred the guilt of a partial departure from the truth; provided they possess so much of God's Word and the holy Sacraments in purity that children of God may thereby be born. When such companies are called true churches, it is not the intention to state that they are faithful, but only that they are real churches as opposed to all worldly organizations (Gemeinschaften).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IV. The name Church is not improperly applied to heterodox companies, but according to the manner of speech of the Word of God itself. It is also not immaterial that this high name is allowed to such communions, for out of this follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. That members also of such companies may be saved; for without the Church there is no salvation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;V. 2. The outward separation of a heterodox company from an orthodox Church is not necessarily a separation from the universal Christian Church nor a relapse into heathenism and does not yet deprive that company of the name Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VI. 3. Even heterodox companies have church power; even among them the goods of the Church may be validly administered, the ministry established, the Sacraments validly administered, and the keys of the kingdom of heaven exercised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VII. 4. Even heterodox companies are not to be dissolved, but reformed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VIII. The orthodox Church is chiefly to be judged by the common, orthodox, public confession to which its members acknowledge and confess themselves to be pledged. CSM&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J. F. Köstering, Auswanderung der sächsischen Lutheraner im Jahre 1838, ihre Niederlassung in Perry-Co., Missouri, und damit zusammenhängende interessante Nachrichten, nebst einem wahrheitsgetreuen Bericht von dem in den Gemeinden zu Altenburg und Frohna vorgefallenen sog. Chiliastenstreit in den Jahren 1856 und 1857 (St. Louis, 1867), pp. 51–52; W. O. Forster, Zion on the Mississippi (St. Louis, 1953), pp. 523–525.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5184299063989439811?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5184299063989439811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5184299063989439811' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5184299063989439811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5184299063989439811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/05/missourian-ecclesiology.html' title='Missourian Ecclesiology'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6180185815403605357</id><published>2008-04-13T14:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-13T14:56:00.460-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Roll Call</title><content type='html'>Who is coming to the demonstration in support of Issues, Etc. between 11 a.m.-1 p.m. on Monday, April 14 at the LCMS International Center, 1333 S. Kirkwood Road in St. Louis?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6180185815403605357?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6180185815403605357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6180185815403605357' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6180185815403605357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6180185815403605357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/04/roll-call.html' title='Roll Call'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-4426679349535497447</id><published>2008-04-12T15:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-12T15:43:55.008-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Issues'/><title type='text'>Pulling Back the Curtain: The Specious Siren Call of the Purple Palace</title><content type='html'>&lt;center&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/TomoeGozen/oz.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was just asked for permission to use &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/10/protecting-my-family-from-false.html"&gt;this old TUEBOR post&lt;/a&gt;, and re-reading it this morning in light of the cancellation of &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; has me thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pastor Wilken and Jeff Schwarz always exercised great prudence and restraint by never discussing synodical concerns on the air. Instead, &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; simply equipped the priesthood of all believers through solid, engaging catechesis, and consequently, this enabled increasing numbers of laymen within the LCMS to see the very real contrast between what synodical officials &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; they believe and what they actually &lt;i&gt;practice.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why Kieschnick cannot open up in even a semblance of pastoral concern for the thousands of Christians who have been hurt by the cancellation of this popular ministry. The programming of &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; "pulled back the curtain" that now shrouds his Purple Palace in a seeming Lutheranism. Appearances and power are everything, so they had to axe &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; for the sake of their "vision" or ideological goals -- yet claim that it was merely due to present financial constraints. They had to maintain the guise of still being Lutheran, and that meant that the Christ-centered, cross-focused message of &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; could not be given as the reason for its cancellation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like the usurping Claudius in &lt;i&gt;Hamlet&lt;/i&gt;, Kieschnick cannot come clean, so the sad fact of how two honorable men were fired because they faithfully taught the biblical doctrines that he, himself, is supposed to believe, teach, and confess -- this is an embarrassment that cannot be publicly acknowledged, even though he has at least, at the very minimum, allowed the public defaming of these two good men. Kieschnick must now hide behind the people he controls, the increasingly ludicrous excuse of financial constraints, and the hope that this public relations problem will simply go away with the passage of time, like it did with Pastor Wally Schulz.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Kieschnick leads the LCMS to gradually and quietly reject its rich, confessional heritage, he must continue, like the Minister of Magic in &lt;i&gt;Harry Potter&lt;/i&gt; who stubbornly denied the return of Voldamort, to say that the LCMS is united and orthodox: &lt;i&gt;All is well in Missouri! Do not look behind the curtain! Stop talking about all this doctrine stuff! We need to focus on the mission!&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/10/protecting-my-family-from-false.html"&gt;See the direct quotations here.&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.zionmarshall.org/images/issueslogo.gif" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/2407007495_1c25b9511c_o.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Kieschnick sounds &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; like the liberal leaders of the various liberal mainstream protestant church bodies over the past 30 years: ELCA, United Methodist Church, PCUSA, The Episcopal Church, et al. If you would read or listen to their convention speeches during the last few decades, this very same diction that Kieschnick spews has been the constant specious siren call of the liberal mainstreams that are now hemmoraging members by the tens of thousands: &lt;i&gt;"Forget about our differences and all those concerns about doctrine. We need to love people. People are hurting and desperately in need of the Gospel!"&lt;/i&gt; Meet the new libs, same as the old libs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If rebellion against the Office of Holy Ministry puts the Gospel at stake, then so do members of the Office of Holy Ministry who, supposedly in the name of the Gospel, point us to our own hand-wringing selves just as the mainstream liberals have done now for over 30 years ago. "Deeds, not creeds!" has been their constant battle cry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; has warned us that, at this point in history, American Evangelicalism is following the exact same path to apostasy that the liberal churches chose 30 or 40 years ago, only now Rick Warren, probably Billy Graham's successor as media darling and Evangelical figurehead, is the one using the very same specious siren call of deeds, not creeds. And the wizards who sit behind desks in the Purple Palace are telling us to follow these very same siren voices. Kyrie Eleison!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not let anyone tell you otherwise: Kieschnick cancelled &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; because Pastor Wilken and Jeff, like that little dog in the Wizard of Oz, were pulling back the curtain of the Purple Palace by equipping the priesthood of all believers. Kieschnick wants us all to run out from under God's Word, wringing our hands like some pious chicken little in the name of so-called compassion for the lost. But Pastor Wilken pointed us to the Gospel and reminded us of its power in this postmodern age.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.'s&lt;/i&gt; Christ-centered, cross-focused message made me ten times more effective and compassionate as a lay witness than all of the Church Leadership Conferences at Willow Creek that I attended. Those who do not care about apologetics and doctrine do not really care about genuine Evangelism or the people to whom they witness. Their hearts and egos might race and swell with the numbers of those who come to their meetings, those whom St. Paul warned would s&lt;i&gt;eek teachers in accordance to their own desires&lt;/i&gt;, but it will not be on account of biblical Evangelism. The training and teaching that we received from &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; was exactly what I needed in order to confess my faith as a fellow beggar in need of the same Gospel that I shared with non-Christians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kieschnick, by opposing the Christ-centred, cross-focused message of the New Testament and selling out to the Church Growth Movement, is turning the LCMS into the Gelded Church of the Reformation -- all in the name the name of mission or Evangelism. If we follow him by taking our cues from American Evangelicalism -- the new, Bible-believing liberals -- then the LCMS will tragically end up in the very same sad place that the old mainstream liberals are today, only by a different, more ironic route, one draped with a curtain that &lt;i&gt;seems&lt;/i&gt; Lutheran.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know not &lt;i&gt;seems...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I have that within which passeth show;&lt;br /&gt;These but the trappings and the suits of woe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kyrie Eleison!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-4426679349535497447?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/4426679349535497447/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=4426679349535497447' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4426679349535497447'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4426679349535497447'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/04/pulling-back-curtain-specious-siren.html' title='Pulling Back the Curtain: The Specious Siren Call of the Purple Palace'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1979287434786861739</id><published>2008-03-30T14:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-30T15:18:23.295-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Issues'/><title type='text'>Issues, Etc.:  Educating Congregations on the LCMS Mess</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-d05cdadc9112d48" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" 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href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/03/educating-congregations-on-lcms-mess.html' title='Issues, Etc.:  Educating Congregations on the LCMS Mess'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8198577114876349619</id><published>2008-03-29T11:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-29T11:21:51.120-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Issues'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Etc.'/><title type='text'>The White Horse Inn Interview of Mollie Hemingway on Issues, Etc.</title><content type='html'>&lt;embed width="350" height="275" 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term='Issues'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Etc.'/><title type='text'>An den Herrn Strand: "Misapprehension about the Size of the Issues, Etc. Audience"</title><content type='html'>Mr. David L. Strand&lt;br /&gt;Executive Director&lt;br /&gt;Board for Communication&lt;br /&gt;Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Mr. Strand:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I read with great sadness your explanation yesterday as to why you have canceled Issues, Etc., and today, after reading &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120667366412170875.html?mod=taste_primary_hs"&gt;the &lt;i&gt;Wall Street Journal&lt;/i&gt; article&lt;/a&gt; that has now brought your report into serious question at a national level, I am even more concerned about the veracity of your claims and the integrity of our synodical leadership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am writing you today about the supposed "misapprehension about the size of the Issues audience" that you mentioned in your statement yesterday. The most obvious omission in your statement and your grossest miscalculation of the &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; audience, was your failure to even mention downloads of the program via iTunes podcast subscriptions. In fact, you don’t even mention podcasts!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am one of probably thousands of Christians of all ages from around the world and in numerous denominations who received and enjoyed each and every hour of &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; through automatic mp3 downloads with iTunes, the primary and most popular means through which its thousands of avid listeners received the programming. This was the chief reason I financially supported KFUO as a member of the Reformation Club.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I literally listened to each and every hour of &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt;, but I &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; could listen live. I work during the week and care for my mother and my family after work; likewise, the Sunday night broadcasts were just too late for me, since we live in the eastern time zone. So I am one of the thousands of avid listeners that you failed to even acknowledge in your report yesterday, for you did not even consider podcast subscriptions at all. Mr. Strand, we count in the eyes of our Lord, and we should have counted in your eyes as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To put the best construction upon this conspicuous and telling omission, I must assume that you just don't know about podcasts or iTunes, the most popular means on Earth for people to receive podcasts and the method of downloading that was most prominently suggested on the &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/i&gt; web site. Not knowing about this would be amazingly ironic considering the position that you hold and the sad, apparently rash, uninformed action that you took last week -- the sudden and unannounced termination of a program that brought the life-giving message of Christ to thousands around the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were less charitable, I would simply conclude that you were deliberately trying to obfuscate your actions and protect yourself or those who control you. Sadly, this is the perception of many, and now that the termination has been further revealed in a &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120667366412170875.html?mod=taste_primary_hs"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wall Street Journal article&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, your actions and the specious reasoning upon which you have based them are now known nationally. This is truly a sad day for the cause of Christ and for the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, but it is &lt;i&gt;NOT&lt;/i&gt; due to those of us who are merely asking honest questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Strand, even though you are not a pastor, I ask you to please be pastoral to God’s people, even when those ordained persons in positions of political power over you may not be. Have you not read some of the heartfelt comments on &lt;a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?Issues"&gt;the Issues, Etc. petition&lt;/a&gt; which now has more than 5,200 signatures? Does that not tell you anything at all? As Atticus Finch said in &lt;i&gt;To Kill a Mockingbird&lt;/i&gt;, there comes a time in every man’s life that will test him, perhaps profoundly, and how he handles and responds to that challenge will decide how he will be remembered. Frankly, this seems to be your time, Mr. Strand. Please be honest and open with God’s people! Do the right thing. Bring everything out into the light, for Christ commands us to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.sheboyganfalls.k12.wi.us/students/hogue10/10cjlorg/images/to-kill-a-mockingbird-full[1].jpg" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope that you can provide Issues Etc.’s thousands of avid listeners more information, so that we can correct any false perceptions that you have given your brothers and sisters in Christ, and if necessary, humbly ask your forgiveness. I would at least like to know why you completely ignored podcast subscriptions in your report yesterday, for this is the primary means through which the vast majority of &lt;i&gt;Issues, Etc.’s&lt;/i&gt; listeners -- thousands of Christians outside of the St. Louis area and around the world -- enjoyed this Christ-centered, cross-focused program.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I look forward to your response, and I pray that God would give you the grace to to clarify these matters in biblical openness and under and in the light of God’s Word.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8365220969077642395?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8365220969077642395/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8365220969077642395' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8365220969077642395'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8365220969077642395'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/03/den-herrn-strand-misapprehension-about.html' title='An den Herrn Strand: &quot;Misapprehension about the Size of the Issues, Etc. Audience&quot;'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6616459918368500515</id><published>2008-03-23T16:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-23T16:07:00.881-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Issues, Etc. Petition</title><content type='html'>&lt;center&gt;&lt;iframe width="102" height="36" src="http://www.petitiononline.com/signatures.php?petition=Issues" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6616459918368500515?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6616459918368500515/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6616459918368500515' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6616459918368500515'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6616459918368500515'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2008/03/issues-etc-petition.html' title='Issues, Etc. 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Treachery'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2403109499708984473</id><published>2007-11-27T19:03:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-27T19:07:21.990-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Some Music for Advent</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;I know it is off topic for Honoring the Office of the Holy Ministry, but......&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Back in the mid 90’s a good friend of mine, Victor Minetola, with a recording studio in his basement, came up with a great way for us to give out cheap Christmas presents: Record a Christmas tape!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He recently put three of the best that we did on his website: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="http://hyp0static.com/projects/projects" href="http://hyp0static.com/projects/projects"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;http://hyp0static.com/projects/projects&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Born in Bethlehem” was written by Victor (I wrote one stanza)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The Coventry Carol” was arranged by Victor and me and is kind of what one ends up with when punk meets traditional hymns – but still respectful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“A Fire is Started in Bethlehem” is my favorite.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am playing guitar on all of the pieces.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It isn’t the Rapps, but it ain't too shabby.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2403109499708984473?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2403109499708984473/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2403109499708984473' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2403109499708984473'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2403109499708984473'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/11/some-music-for-advent.html' title='Some Music for Advent'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2066558800169866098</id><published>2007-11-10T15:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-12T08:56:21.801-08:00</updated><title type='text'>God Speaks Through Real Mouths!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RziFSwHw43I/AAAAAAAAAEE/ohGfCc7GJR0/s1600-h/Noah.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RziFSwHw43I/AAAAAAAAAEE/ohGfCc7GJR0/s320/Noah.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5131998332590285682" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I don't know about you, but I've always had the cinematic picture of God speaking to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt; a bewildered Noah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt; from the clouds, and Noah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt; (played by John Huston)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt; looking around to see where this mysterious voice (I think also played by him) is coming from until he recognizes it as the voice of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/122954/2154750/2167373/070621_MOV_evanmightyEX.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/122954/2154750/2167373/070621_MOV_evanmightyEX.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;This is even more enforced by movies like George Burns in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;"Oh, God!" and the recent "Evan Almighty" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;where God (in this case Morgan Freeman) has to make repeated special miraculous appearances to convince the hearers that it is, indeed, God who is speaking to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Why do we think that when Scripture says God speaks to someone that it must be&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt; through some strange or miraculous means?  I think it is because we think of God as some kind of distant deity who doesn't have a natural and constant means of connection to His people in this material world. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/BattleCatX/George_Burns_Oh-God.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 137px; height: 184px;" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/BattleCatX/George_Burns_Oh-God.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Alternately, some people think God exercises a special hot-line connection to them (or visa versa) through emotional experiences, signs, and/or wonders.  Well, what do we Lutherans believe?  In other words, what does Scripture have to say about this?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;These are the generations of Shem. Shem was a hundred years old and fathered Arpachshad two years after the flood... &lt;/span&gt;[Genesis 11:10]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;These genealogies always seem to me like useless tidbits of Biblical trivia at first blush.  However, let us consider Luther's commentary on this verse:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Even Abraham was almost swallowed up by the church of Nimrod; but he was called back by the voice of the Lord, who admonished him to separate from the ungodly race and to seek a new abode. I believe that this was done by Shem himself. Since he was the ruler of the church and had the promise concerning Christ, he was held in high esteem by his grandsons; for his ministry was in truth a ministry of God, and what he ordered, his grandsons received as the voice of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Thus when it is written that Rebecca consulted the Lord (Gen. 25:22), I think that she consulted Shem himself, whom the Lord wanted to be at the head of the church.﻿ For Shem died when Jacob and Esau were fifty years old; and when men who are full of the Holy Spirit speak, it is God who is speaking. At about this time the kingdom of Egypt had its beginning, for the account states that Abraham went down to Egypt.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Hence it is the main point of this chapter to have us realize where the church was at that time, by which fathers it was governed, and finally which fathers were contemporaries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Luther's Works&lt;/span&gt;, Volume 2: Lectures on Genesis (Ge 11:10)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I searched for this Luther quote on my Luther's Works CD (Libronix) after hearing that Luther believed that when God spoke to Noah he did so through Methuselah.  Perhaps it's speculative, but according to this theory, God through Adam confronted Cain with the sin of killing Abel, and Abraham was called by God through Shem to leave Ur and go to the promised land. Before we dismiss this as pure speculation, consider that God's Holy Word itself says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;For prophecy was not borne &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;at any time&lt;/span&gt; by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke being borne along by the Holy Spirit.  &lt;/span&gt;[2 Peter, 1:21 - emphasis mine]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Apparently, throughout his commentaries on the Old Testament, at almost every point in history in which God spoke, Luther was able to find a patriarch who was alive and who could speak for God in His place.  Peter obviously wouldn't have found this such a novel idea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;So perhaps it's not all that speculative.  It is certainly a great comfort to know that God normally uses means to communicate with us.  We aren't left (like the enthusiasts and charismatics in our midst think) to try to discern God's voice in superstitious signs and wonders, or in our own sinful hearts and minds.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;God gives us parents, brothers, sisters, and godly friends; and He talks to us through them.  How much more does he speak to us through the mouths of pastors, who are divinely called and ordained to be preachers and teachers of the Word of God.  And, of course, we should always consult Scripture to affirm that what any and all of these messengers tell us is consistent with His infallible Word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;Therefore we ought and must constantly maintain this point, that God does not wish to deal with us otherwise than through the spoken Word and the Sacraments.  It is the devil himself whatsoever is extolled as Spirit without the Word and Sacraments. For God wished to appear even to Moses through the burning bush and spoken Word; and no prophet neither Elijah nor Elisha, received the Spirit without the Ten Commandments [or spoken Word]. Neither was John the Baptist conceived without the preceding word of Gabriel, nor did he leap in his mother’s womb without the voice of Mary. And Peter says, 2 Pet. 1, 21: The prophecy came not by the will of man; but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Without the outward Word, however, they were not holy, much less would the Holy Ghost have moved them to speak when they still were unholy [or profane]; for they were holy, says he, since the Holy Ghost spake through them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;[Luther, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;Smalkald Articles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;, Part III, Article VIII, 10-13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;...which takes us right back to the motto of this blog from the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Large Catechism&lt;/span&gt;'s explanation of the Fourth Commandment with regard to pastors:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, since they are fathers they are entitled to their honor, even above all others. ...those who would be Christians are under obligation in the sight of God to esteem them worthy of double honor who minister to their souls, that they deal well with them and provide for them.  ...He who despises and casts this to the winds is not worthy ever to hear a word of God.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RzcEyAHw42I/AAAAAAAAAD8/8tJzLwV4fOo/s1600-h/1580+BoC+Spiritual+Fathers.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RzcEyAHw42I/AAAAAAAAAD8/8tJzLwV4fOo/s400/1580+BoC+Spiritual+Fathers.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5131575557484503906" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2066558800169866098?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2066558800169866098/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2066558800169866098' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2066558800169866098'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2066558800169866098'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/11/god-speaks-through-real-mouths.html' title='God Speaks Through Real Mouths!'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RziFSwHw43I/AAAAAAAAAEE/ohGfCc7GJR0/s72-c/Noah.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3477325282480859014</id><published>2007-11-08T19:34:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-08T19:55:55.764-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Jeff Schwarz for the President of Something</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gX_jockFc4k/RzPVZGlLwmI/AAAAAAAAACo/W2-_uIH0b0A/s1600-h/n8048400700_4524.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130679027745145442" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gX_jockFc4k/RzPVZGlLwmI/AAAAAAAAACo/W2-_uIH0b0A/s320/n8048400700_4524.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Jeff &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Schwarz&lt;/span&gt;, producer par excellence of the radio show Issues, Etc. made a throw-a-way comment on running for president and his former vicar started a page on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt; for him: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8048400700"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8048400700&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I'd vote for him. In one of his weaker moments he made me promise to take over for him if he should die.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I suppose public office is a kind of death.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This is a stealth campaign, kind of like Fred Thompson.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;There is talk of him running for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Synodical&lt;/span&gt; President of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;LCMS&lt;/span&gt; - which begs the question can a layman be SP of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;LCMS&lt;/span&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Why not? I defy anyone to show me in sacred scripture the requirements to be &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Synodical&lt;/span&gt; President. Bishops, deacons and presbyters are mentioned, but not &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Synodical&lt;/span&gt; Presidents. So I suppose as it is not truly an office of the holy ministry, Jeff could certainly fill the role.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;This is all done in jest of course, Rev. Matt Harrison should fill that role in 2010.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3477325282480859014?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3477325282480859014/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3477325282480859014' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3477325282480859014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3477325282480859014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/11/jeff-schwarz-for-preseident-of.html' title='Jeff Schwarz for the President of Something'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gX_jockFc4k/RzPVZGlLwmI/AAAAAAAAACo/W2-_uIH0b0A/s72-c/n8048400700_4524.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8914264508688329887</id><published>2007-11-04T10:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-04T11:23:42.058-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Blind Men, Beggars, Preaching and Those Who are Sent</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This morning I was on my way to church with the kids and was listening to the local Roman Catholic radio station &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;(I've taken it on the chin on The Unknown Lutheran blog and back in the Beggars All days for my &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;EWTN&lt;/span&gt; obsession - I know the fact that it beats the heck out of Joel &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Osteen&lt;/span&gt;, Robert &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Schuler&lt;/span&gt; and D. James Kennedy is no excuse - and when I hit the lotto there will be a Lutheran nationally broadcast radio and television network.). &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;A priest from Africa was preaching on Luke 19 (&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Zacchaeus&lt;/span&gt; and the sycamore tree) and was doing an admirable job of preaching the Gospel text - he emphasized what Jesus did in coming to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Zacchaeus&lt;/span&gt;' house. Somehow he went outside of the gospel for the day and talked about the beggar mentioned in Luke 18:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;As Jesus approached Jericho, a blind man was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard the crowd going by, he asked what was happening. They told him, "Jesus of Nazareth is passing by."&lt;br /&gt;He called out, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"&lt;br /&gt;Those who led the way rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!"&lt;br /&gt;Jesus stopped and ordered the man to be brought to him. When he came near, Jesus asked him, "What do you want me to do for you?" &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"Lord, I want to see," he replied.&lt;br /&gt;Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God. When all the people saw it, they also praised God.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The priest followed up with these words, "We too must ask Jesus to heal our blindness and the blindness of others."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I started praying for a friend of mine, who simply fails to see that he needs to return to the Church. I prayed, "Lord, please help my friend to see." And something odd happened, my mind went to the following bible verse in Romans 10 - and it was odd, it was almost as if someone else was speaking to me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?&lt;br /&gt;And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;My friend certainly believed at one time. He is baptized. He went to Lutheran school. I have told him that he needs to return to the Church and I have told him why he needs to return. He is however blind and cannot see his need. He also doesn't realize that he is a beggar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;And I started thinking, could it be that my "preaching" to this man is in vain, because I am not sent? Or maybe he is so blind that the only way he will realize that he is a beggar and blind would be to bring him to where Jesus is walking by? How am I going to get him there? How I am going to get him to the place where I know that a man sent by Jesus is? Or maybe when I told him that he needed Jesus, did I do it all wrong?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;After all of these mental gymnastics, I could only return to the fact that I was blind and still only see through the glass dimly. I am a beggar but, I have much to rejoice in, just as the man Jesus healed in Luke 18. I was only 1 mile from where I would soon meet Jesus in the words of Absolution, in the preaching of the Gospel and in the Sacrament of the Altar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;In the end, I can only tell the blind that they are blind. I can only tell the beggars I know where Jesus will be passing by. And I should continue to rejoice in the healing our Saviour has given me. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;And those who &lt;em&gt;are sent&lt;/em&gt; will continue to make sure that Jesus passes by, by the command and in the stead of our Lord Jesus Christ. This our Lord has promised until the end of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8914264508688329887?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8914264508688329887/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8914264508688329887' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8914264508688329887'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8914264508688329887'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/11/blind-men-beggars-preaching-and-those.html' title='Blind Men, Beggars, Preaching and Those Who are Sent'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8328089576005184371</id><published>2007-10-28T17:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-28T18:19:03.625-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Wonderful News from Northern Europe! Pray for the Ordained in Finland</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Try holding -without reservation - to the Book of Concord in Finland..... and you'll end up renting out the local Seventh Day Adventist church for your divine service.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;There may be great and wonderful Lutheran parishes and cathedrals there. And hey, if you are lodge member or having some kind of secular event, you may use it. If you are a pastor who stands on scripture and opposes the ordination of women, you must rent space elsewhere to feed your flock.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Rev. Markus &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Pöyry&lt;/span&gt; is such a man who stands on scripture and holds to the Book of Concord. He was a student at Fort Wayne and was supported by the Lutheran Heritage Foundation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;He was ordained in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Gothenburg&lt;/span&gt; Sweden on October 20&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;. He will be serving &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Luukas&lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;koinonia&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Seinäjoki&lt;/span&gt;, Finland. St. Luke's has 50 members and is renting space from the local Seventh Day Adventist congregation, because there is, as it were, "no place for them in the inn".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Please pray for Pastor Markus and his flock. May our blessed Lord strengthen and preserve them and use their example to strengthen us all!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Happy Reformation Day Markus!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For pictures of the ordination go to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.luthersaatio.com/Vihkimys_kuvat_20071020.pdf"&gt;http://www.luthersaatio.com/Vihkimys_kuvat_20071020.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8328089576005184371?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8328089576005184371/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8328089576005184371' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8328089576005184371'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8328089576005184371'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/10/wonderful-news-from-northern-europe.html' title='Wonderful News from Northern Europe! Pray for the Ordained in Finland'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3633279825822338762</id><published>2007-10-22T16:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-22T16:50:59.494-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='walther'/><title type='text'>Is your Lutheran pastor trying to make you a Roman Catholic?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rx02ruFtDrI/AAAAAAAAAOs/R70glNjy2l8/s1600-h/Walther_cfw_young.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rx02ruFtDrI/AAAAAAAAAOs/R70glNjy2l8/s400/Walther_cfw_young.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5124312075751722674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;I recently heard my pastor publicly accused of trying to make &lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/"&gt;our church in Marshall, Michigan&lt;/a&gt; a 'Roman Catholic' church.  The brothers and sisters in Christ who suggested this were, quite frankly, just plain silly. They have a grave need for catechesis, especially since several of them actually teach Sunday School.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The accusations reminded me of an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.issuesetc.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; interview from about three or four years ago in which my favorite regular guest on that fine program, Pastor Will Weedon, read some apposite quotations from the founding father of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, C.F.W. Walther.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tried to find the episode, but couldn't, so I wrote Pastor Weedon, and he was kind enough to, amazingly, almost immediately send me the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;No one would ever argue that C.F.W. Walther was a true Lutheran!  This man who was so instrumental in the founding of the Missouri Synod wished to be nothing other than a faithful Lutheran.  I’d like to offer for your consideration, then, some of his statements about the liturgy and the fear of being “too catholic”:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is too bad that such entirely different ceremonies prevail in our Synod, and that no liturgy at all has yet been introduced in many congregations.  The prejudice especially against the responsive chanting of pastor and congregation is of course still very great with many people - this does not, however, alter the fact that it is very foolish.  The pious church father Augustine said, “Qui cantat, bis orat - he who sings prays twice."  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;- C.F.W. Walther&lt;br /&gt;Explanation of Thesis 17 in “The True Visible Church”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Below is an excerpt from a Reformation sermon delivered by C. F. W.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Walther in 1858.  Source is listed at bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is true that of all the church bodies which have left the papacy, it is precisely the Lutheran Church which is accused of retaining many papal abuses and of having been the least successful in cleansing itself.  It is pointed out, for example, that in our church priestly clothing, church ornamentation, pictures, altar, crucifixes, candles, confession, the sign of the cross, and the like are still apparent. But, my friends, whoever regards these innocent things as vestiges of the papacy knows neither what the papacy is, nor what the Bible teaches.  The very fact that the Lutheran Reformation was not aimed at indifferent adiaphora, but retained those things which were in harmony with God's Word, shows that it was not a disorderly revolution, but a Biblical reformation; for whatever did not agree with God's Word was unrelentingly cleansed from the church by the Lutheran Reformation even though it seemed to glow with angelic holiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The Lutheran Reformation, however, was complete not only in the destruction and tearing down of all the idols which had been erected in the church, but also in bringing forth its treasures and in setting up its truly sacred possessions.  Luther followed not only the principle, "truth and nothing but the truth," but also the principle, "and the whole truth."  Therefore, through his efforts, not only this and that truth, not just half the truth, but the whole truth of Holy Scripture was opened for the church, was used, and made the Christians' common possession.  Not only did the Lutheran Reformation get all its doctrines out of the marble quarry of the written Word of God, but there is no doctrine of the Word of God which it did not place on the candlesticks of the church like a heavenly light in its purity.  This includes the doctrine concerning God as well as the doctrine concerning man; the doctrine concerning the foundation of salvation as well as those concerning the means of salvation and the order of salvation; the doctrine concerning faith as well as those concerning love and hope.  The whole counsel of God for man's salvation was clearly and purely brought to the light of day out of the gold mine of Scripture, beginning with the doctrine of justification; namely, that a man is righteous before God and can be saved only by grace through faith in Christ without the merits of works.  This laid the foundation on which the whole Christian doctrinal edifice rises like a holy diamond temple.  In its holy of holies the New Testament mercy seat of the holy sacraments and the absolution is enthroned."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;(Excerpt of C. F. W. Walther's 1858 Reformation sermon published in&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;"Gottesdienst:  A Quarterly Journal of the Evangelical-Lutheran&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Liturgy" Michaelmas 2000, Volume 8 Number 3 (2000:3), p. 12.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;"Gottesdienst" provides us with more from the same sermon which they&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;reprint from:  "The Word of His Grace: Sermon Selections, C. F. W.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Walther", Lake Mills, Iowa:  Graphic Publishing, 1978, pp. 50-53.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;In an essay delivered to a district convention, Walther said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“We refuse to be guided by those who are offended by our church customs.  We adhere to them all the more firmly when someone wants to cause us to have a guilty conscience on account of them….  It is truly distressing that many of our fellow Christians find the difference between Lutheranism and Papism in outward things.  It is a pity and a dreadful cowardice when one sacrifices the good ancient church customs to please the deluded American sects, lest they accuse us of being papistic (i.e., too catholic!). Indeed!  Am I to be afraid of a Methodist, who perverts the saving Word, or be ashamed in the matter of my good cause, and not rather rejoice that the sects can tell by our ceremonies that I do not belong to them?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are not insisting that there be uniformity of perception or feeling or of taste among all believing Christians – neither dare anyone demand that all be minded as he is.  Nevertheless it remains true that the Lutheran liturgy distinguishes Lutheran worship from the worship of other churches to such an extend that the houses of worship of the latter look like lecture halls in which the hearers are addressed or instructed (NOTE:  if he were writing today, he’d no doubt add:  they look like movie theatres in which the hearers are entertained!), while our churches are in truth houses of prayer in which Christians serve the great God publicly before the world.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;(Essays for the Church, Volume 1, p. 194 (St. Louis, CPH, 1992).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Thank you, Pastor Weedon!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Woof!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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Catholic?'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rx02ruFtDrI/AAAAAAAAAOs/R70glNjy2l8/s72-c/Walther_cfw_young.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1527147974397835871</id><published>2007-10-21T16:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-21T16:55:17.801-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><title type='text'>New Feed for Our Podcast</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Law &amp;amp; Gospel at Zion (Sermons, Bible Classes, Eric and Polly Rapp concerts, and even sound bites from Snoopy!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a new feed for our podcast:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;http://feeds.feedburner.com/zionmarshall&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ol id=""&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Go to the "Advanced" menu of iTunes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Select 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href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/BIBLECLASS_2007_10_14.mp3"&gt;http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/BIBLECLASS_2007_10_14.mp3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Blessings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8622383531401493623?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8622383531401493623/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8622383531401493623' 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term='spiritual abuse'/><title type='text'>Protecting My Family from False Doctrine and Bad Pastors</title><content type='html'>&lt;a style="font-family: lucida grande;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RxH12a8GPoI/AAAAAAAAAOk/VHKokNDEpic/s1600-h/wizardofoz.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RxH12a8GPoI/AAAAAAAAAOk/VHKokNDEpic/s400/wizardofoz.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5121144566590094978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;I want to protect my family from false doctrine and bad pastors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know that this blog deals with honoring the Office of Holy Ministry, so it seems odd to be talking about bad pastors.  But I have already acknowledged in a previous post &lt;/span&gt;(&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/spritually-abused-and-pastors.html"&gt;"The Spiritually Abused and the OHM", 7/2/07)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;that there are Lutheran pastors today, called and ordained servants of the Word, who are simply bad.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My family has been spiritually abused in the past by clergy who have, in the name of evangelism or 'compassion' for the lost, brushed aside the need for sound doctrine.  So it was with great sadness, disappointment, and more than a few hairs standing up on the back of my neck that I read a disturbing series of contrasting quotations in an e-mail that I received this morning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The following quotations contain language that I heard all of the time during our years in manipulative, abusive charismatic/Evangelical churches, and I thank Rev. Charles Hendrickson for pointing out the sharp contrast between them and those (further below) of C.F.W. Walther:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;President Kieschnick:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The church cannot afford to waste time on incessant internal purification at the expense of the lost in the world."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;--Jerry Kieschnick, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.lutheranchurch.ca/synod2002/fri-greetin%20gs.html"&gt;http://www.lutheranchurch.ca/synod2002/fri-greetin gs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We have not the luxury of time and energy spent on incessant internal purification at the expense of the eternal destiny of the souls of men and women for whom Christ died, but who know not His name and have accepted not His saving grace."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;"&gt;--Jerry Kieschnick, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/CTCR/pre%20sident_greetings.pdf"&gt;http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/CTCR/pre sident_greetings.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"My concern is that we can spend so much time in incessant internal purification that we do so at the expense of the eternal destiny of people who are dying every minute."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;--Jerry Kieschnick, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.wfn.org/2002/12/msg00199.html"&gt;http://www.wfn.org/2002/12/msg00199.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"People, this is NOT a game. Our incessant internal purification at the expense of the eternal destiny of the souls of men and women for whom Christ died must stop!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;--Jerry Kieschnick, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.jesusfirst.net/2002aug04.htm"&gt;http://www.jesusfirst.net/2002aug04.htm &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;President Walther:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Many say, 'Instead of disputing over doctrine so much, we should much rather be concerned with souls and with leading them to Christ.' But all who speak in this way do not really know what they are saying or what they are doing. As foolish as it would be to scold a farmer for being concerned about sowing good seed and to demand of him simply to be concerned about a good harvest, so foolish it is to scold those who are concerned first and foremost with the doctrine, and to demand of them that they should rather seek to rescue souls. For just as the farmer who wants a good crop must first of all be concerned about good seed, so the church must above all be concerned about right doctrine if it would save souls."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;--C. F. W. Walther, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Our Common Task--The Saving of Souls," 1872&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.concordtx.org/vision.htm"&gt;http://www.concordtx.org/vision.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether our Synod gains friends or makes enemies, wins honor or invites disgrace, grows or declines in numbers, brings peace or incites enmity, all this must be unimportant to us--just so our Synod may keep the jewel of purity of doctrine and knowledge. However, should our Synod ever grow indifferent toward purity of doctrine, through ingratitude forget this prize, or betray or barter it away to the false church, then let our church body perish and the name "Missourian" decay in disgrace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;--C.F.W. Walther, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;First Sermon Delivered at the Opening of Synod,&lt;br /&gt;1 Corinthians 1:4, 5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.ctsfw.edu/library/files/pb/1517"&gt;http://www.ctsfw.edu/library/files/pb/1517&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh my dear friends of the Lutheran faith, confession, and conflict, do not be misled when today those are everywhere accused of lovelessness who still do not give up the battle for pure doctrine in our Church. . . . Oh my dear friends, let us indeed sorrow and lament over this: that false teachers constantly assail the pure doctrine in our Church and thus are at fault for the conflict and strife in the Church. However, let us never lament but rather extol and praise God that he always awakens men who fight against those false teachers, for, I repeat, this pertains to "the common salvation." . . . This conflict is one commanded us by God and is therefore certainly one blessed in time and in eternity. . . . Oh, therefore, let us never listen to those who praise and extol the conflict of the Reformation for the pure Gospel but want to know nothing of a similar conflict in our days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;--C. F. W. Walther, synodical president&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Why Dare and Can We Never Give Up&lt;br /&gt;the Church's Struggle for the Pure Doctrine?" 1876&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Pastors who brush aside the critical importance of sound doctrine in the name of 'compassion' for the lost have brushed aside God's Word and do not, in spite of all their pious platitudes, give a rat's behind for the unsaved.  Show me a pastor who does not care about doctrine or apologetics, and I will show you a man who does not care about the lost.  When they complain about others who are concerned about sound biblical teaching, they really are saying that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;they do not want to stand under the authority of God's Word.  &lt;/span&gt;They do not want their doctrine or practice to be questioned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a lay person who almost rejected the Christian faith due to spiritual abuse at the hands of such men 'ablaze' with such a supposed 'compassion' for the lost, I became a Lutheran because of the explosively liberating &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;doctrine&lt;/span&gt; of the Reformation.  So now when I hear that pastors in the Missouri Synod are using the very same rationale to avoid standing under the authority of Holy Scripture, I realize that honoring the holy ministry is one thing, whereas honoring the specious, manipulative, and damnable teachings of truly bad pastors is another.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The Office of Holy Ministry ends where pastors step out from underneath the authority of God's Word, even in the name of Evangelism.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such teaching is a public, deadly evil, and I will, by God's grace, keep my wife and children far from such men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so."&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Acts 17:11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Blessings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8201286100974097892?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8201286100974097892/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8201286100974097892' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8201286100974097892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8201286100974097892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/10/protecting-my-family-from-false.html' title='Protecting My Family from False Doctrine and Bad Pastors'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RxH12a8GPoI/AAAAAAAAAOk/VHKokNDEpic/s72-c/wizardofoz.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1209581926548313993</id><published>2007-10-13T18:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-03T08:37:15.348-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Paper Just Published by Rev. Joel Baseley, Emmanuel-Dearborn</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p align="center"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 160);font-family:arial;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The Lord, the Keys and the Church vis a vis Synodical Offices"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-or-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"The Department of Redundancy Department"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div align="center"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;center&gt;  &lt;address&gt;     &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;kbd&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A paper     delineating the Authority and Responsibilities of the     mandated Office of the Keys, theologically diagnosing current     synodical confusions with remedies suggested. It contains     copious Walther quotes previously unavailable in English.     This paper is deep and long, but is &lt;/kbd&gt;&lt;kbd&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;addressed     to every member of our church vis a vis their own     responsibilities for the use of the Office of the Keys&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/kbd&gt;&lt;kbd&gt;.     &lt;/kbd&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/address&gt; &lt;/center&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;center&gt;  &lt;address&gt;     &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;kbd&gt;&lt;u&gt;Available in     three formats:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/kbd&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/address&gt; &lt;/center&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;ul  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;li style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://markvpublications.com/Keys_LCMS.wpd" target="_blank"&gt;WordPerfect         Filen  (right click to download)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://markvpublications.com/Keys_LCMS.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;PDF         - Full page/Full Text - For Reading on Screen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://markvpublications.com/Keys_LCMS_rs.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;PDF - Printer Saver Version&lt;/a&gt; -         Reader's Spread format - smaller print but uses less         paper.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-1209581926548313993?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1209581926548313993/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=1209581926548313993' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1209581926548313993'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1209581926548313993'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/10/paper-just-published-by-rev-joel.html' title='Paper Just Published by Rev. Joel Baseley, Emmanuel-Dearborn'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5222390952468307594</id><published>2007-10-02T03:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-02T03:26:25.586-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Royal Priesthood'/><title type='text'>The Priesthood of all Believers:  Lesson #2 (9/30/07)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."  1 Peter 2:9&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our second lesson on the Royal Priesthood last Sunday focused upon &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter%202%20;&amp;amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Peter 2.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/BIBLECLASS_2007_9_30.mp3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Here is the mp3 (9/30/07)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande';"&gt;&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/09/priesthood-of-all-believers-lesson-1.html"&gt;Lesson #1 Post (9/23/07)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5222390952468307594?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5222390952468307594/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5222390952468307594' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5222390952468307594'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5222390952468307594'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/10/priesthood-of-all-believers-lesson-2.html' title='The Priesthood of all Believers:  Lesson #2 (9/30/07)'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5467579599554274375</id><published>2007-09-29T18:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-29T18:22:32.249-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Jokes &amp; Preaching</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;Pastor Petersen has &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://redeemer-fortwayne.org/blog.php?msg=7682"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;a worthwhile post on humor in the pulpit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt; over at Cyberstones, and I suppose it could be categorized under Pastor McCain's recent posts:  "Because it Had to be Said."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;I used to belong to a Lutheran church where sermons always seemed to begin with jokes, cheesy object lessons, or cutesy stories, and they ALWAYS seemed to undermine the death and life nature of Law and Gospel sermons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande'; font-size: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;Everyone had a good chuckle and relaxed, as nothing serious was to follow.  (Do the professors at St. Louis actually teach their students to do this?  Seriously.  Do they?)  Beginning sermons in this way seemed to be an attempt to be a good old boy and 'relevant' in an appeal to some country club style of populism.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande'; font-size: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;Every Christian should be required to read Neil Postman's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Amusing-Ourselves-Death-Discourse-Business/dp/0140094385"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;Amusing Ourselves to Death&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt; and consider how the terrible state of public discourse in our country might be influencing the pulpits in our churches!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande'; font-size: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5467579599554274375?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5467579599554274375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5467579599554274375' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5467579599554274375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5467579599554274375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/09/jokes-preaching.html' title='Jokes &amp; Preaching'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1488480047728154420</id><published>2007-09-29T04:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-29T05:04:20.338-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pretense'/><title type='text'>Cyberbrethren:  Pious Pretense and Attacks Against Faithful Shepherds</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://polymer.bu.edu/%7Ejdm/good_shepherd.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://polymer.bu.edu/%7Ejdm/good_shepherd.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://cyberbrethren.typepad.com/cyberbrethren/2007/09/because-it-mu-1.html"&gt;Pastor Paul T. McCain&lt;/a&gt; makes this very wise observation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Congregations that refuse to abide by the faithful preaching and teaching of God's Word and force a pastor out who is carrying out his ministry faithfully but not according to the whims of the wealthy members in the congregation...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who want him to marry their fornicating children who refuse to stop living together, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who demand he commune their relatives who have long ago abandoned their Lutheran confession, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who demand that the pastor stop calling on inactive members because he is irritating them, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who insist that the pastor accept as baptismal sponsors people who have no interest in seeing the child raised in the Lutheran faith, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who do not want their pastor talking about the differences between church bodies, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who never want to hear the Law preached too specifically, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who want their pastor to be, more or less, their hired hand, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;...do not deserve another pastor and it is a shame when a church official allows them to receive another one!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Of course, those who attack and oppose faithful pastors do not really want a biblical &lt;i&gt;pastor,&lt;/i&gt; like the one Pastor McCain describes above. And such sad, lost people will rarely force a pastor out honestly, for pretense and passive aggression are always their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;modi operandi.  &lt;/span&gt;Instead, they write 'letters of concern' to district presidents or do their dirty work behind the scenes or through &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/beggars-all-table-scrap-secret-ballots.html"&gt;secret ballots.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They will not openly tell a district president why they are so dissatisfied with their pastor.  Instead, they will point out that 'souls are leaving the church' because the pastor is not compassionate enough, caring enough, is not open to lay readers, blah, blah, blah.  Frankly, I wonder how often domineering women or hen-pecked husbands are behind such attacks&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Youths oppress my people, women rule over them.  O my people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path." &lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%203:12;&amp;amp;version=31;"&gt;Isaiah 3:12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God give 'church officials' the wisdom and character to discern the truth that such disgruntled sheep are rebelling against their faithful shepherd because they are in open rebellion against Christ, our Good Shepherd.  Such deceived people, more than anyone else, are in need of the faithful shepherding that they so despise.  Their souls are in grave danger. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The curses of the ungodly can be more pleasing to God than the hallalujahs of the pious."  -Martin Luther&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-1488480047728154420?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1488480047728154420/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=1488480047728154420' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1488480047728154420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1488480047728154420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/09/cyberbrethren-pious-pretense-and.html' title='Cyberbrethren:  Pious Pretense and Attacks Against Faithful Shepherds'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3283750054989911765</id><published>2007-09-28T05:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-29T05:10:07.047-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='failure'/><title type='text'>When Pastors Fail</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://cyberbrethren.typepad.com/cyberbrethren/2007/09/because-it-must.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;Pastor McCain:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Over the years I've observed as pastors are put out of office unjustly. I do not deny this happens. And that it happens, when it happens, it is a tragedy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have also observed as pastors are put out of their office due to their own foolish behavior and malfeasance in office. What is particularly upsetting to me is that pastors put of office due to their own fault will, more often than not, attempt to wrap themselves in the flag of "confessionalism" or "orthdoxy" and claim they are being persecuted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such pastors should not expect any sympathy when they fail to call on the sick, the shut-in and the dying, but instead think they have more important things to do. When they are cautioned about such behavior and ignore it and persist in it. Well, it's their own fault when finally they are asked to leave. A recent example: a pastor was asked by a family to visit mom, whom they had to put in a home. He said he would. He didn't. He was asked again. He said he would. He didn't. Foolish!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not making this up. This happens, and is happening. Pastors simply failing to perform the basic duties of their office. I have experienced this first-hand with a pastor who was asked to leave after he failed to call on a person who was dying, after many requests, and this was merely one of many examples of this kind of behavior on his part. And recently another pastor who has been warned repeatedly over a good length of time, continues, defiantly, to persist in neglect of his duties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, pastors...you make it very hard for pastors who do face persecution for being truly faithful, when you, due to your own dumb fault, are asked to leave. Enough said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And to all the pastor out there who are being faithful, who are performing the duties of your office. Thank you! God bless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3283750054989911765?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3283750054989911765/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3283750054989911765' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3283750054989911765'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3283750054989911765'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/09/when-pastors-fail.html' title='When Pastors Fail'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2401012755942394729</id><published>2007-09-25T05:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-29T06:03:44.345-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Royal Priesthood'/><title type='text'>The Priesthood of all Believers, Lesson #1</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/images/lawandgospel_small.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.zionmarshall.org/images/lawandgospel_small.jpeg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"The doctrine of the Royal Priesthood is often used as an excuse to do away with any form of distinction between people.  Particularly, it sets up an antagonism between the clergy and the laity, so that they are at odds with one another.  This occurs time and time again.  Whenever our own church body, the Missouri Synod, has addressed the Royal Priesthood in the past, it has been because there had been some type of antagonism between clergy and laity, which is sad because there is so much joy in this doctrine that is lost because it is only seen in terms of conflict."&lt;/i&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;-Rev. Roger James, 9/23/07&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last Sunday, my pastor said these words as he began a new year-long Sunday Bible class series, an in-depth study of the Royal Priesthood of Believers.  (&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/BIBLECLASS_2007_9_23.mp3"&gt;Lesson #1 in mp3&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Erich and I will do our best to faithfully record all of these classes and then post them here.  You can also automatically receive them by subscribing to our church's podcast, &lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/audioarchive.htm#podcast"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Law &amp;amp; Gospel at Zion.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2401012755942394729?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2401012755942394729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2401012755942394729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2401012755942394729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2401012755942394729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/09/priesthood-of-all-believers-lesson-1.html' title='The Priesthood of all Believers, Lesson #1'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3924684491241207121</id><published>2007-08-26T12:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-26T12:49:14.599-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quote for the Day'/><title type='text'>Quote for the Day</title><content type='html'>&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s200/quotationmark.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655084977500802" border="0" /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s1600-h/quotationmarkclose.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s200/quotationmarkclose.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655170876846738" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s1600-h/quotationmark.gif"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;"Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;-Hebrews 13:17  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3924684491241207121?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3924684491241207121/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3924684491241207121' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3924684491241207121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3924684491241207121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/quote-for-day.html' title='Quote for the Day'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s72-c/quotationmark.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6889915292431746715</id><published>2007-08-21T17:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-21T18:07:00.945-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Which family ought we focus upon?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "&gt;"Your family can never be a lasting source of peace."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;-Roger James&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;What would James Dobson tells us to focus upon?  Judging from the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.focusonthefamily.com/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Focus on the Family web site&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;, he probably would not point us to Jesus Christ crucified upon the cross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/SERMON_2007_8_19.mp3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;My pastor's sermon on Sunday (16 minutes)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt; has me thinking about the idolatry of family or 'family values' among American churches.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Praise God that Jesus is a Savior who divides and offers us true peace!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6889915292431746715?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6889915292431746715/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6889915292431746715' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6889915292431746715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6889915292431746715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/which-family-ought-we-focus-upon.html' title='Which family ought we focus upon?'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3136023681147655670</id><published>2007-08-18T05:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-18T05:48:21.545-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Catechesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Admittance to the Holy Communion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confession'/><title type='text'>Pastor Stuckwisch:  Catechesis, Confession, and Admittance to the Holy Communion</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;"...In any case, I am more and more convinced that admittance to the Holy Communion has to be a function of active pastoral care, including the conscientious exercise of church discipline across the board. Such pastoral care ought to mean the communing of those who are baptized and being catechized in the one true faith, whereas church discipline should not require the exclusion of those disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ from His Table."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://sword-in-hat.blogspot.com/2007/08/catechesis-confession-and-holy.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Read the whole thing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3136023681147655670?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3136023681147655670/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3136023681147655670' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3136023681147655670'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3136023681147655670'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/pastor-stuckwisch-catechesis-confession.html' title='Pastor Stuckwisch:  Catechesis, Confession, and Admittance to the Holy Communion'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6989156853273659112</id><published>2007-08-17T19:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-18T05:49:26.922-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='youth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='retreat'/><title type='text'>October 5-7 Youth Retreat in Marshall, Michigan!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/Rrt5hXpyVRI/AAAAAAAAADI/PbG4ffvWOyI/s1600-h/RetreatPoster.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/Rrt5hXpyVRI/AAAAAAAAADI/PbG4ffvWOyI/s400/RetreatPoster.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5096801017491772690" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;One way we are honoring the office of holy ministry is by organizing youth retreats for our congregation under the authority of our pastor.  We have been very careful every step of the way to get our pastor's approval for what we're doing and how we do it.  Most pastors don't have the time to organize such events.   Ask your pastor what you can do to help him.  Perhaps one way is simply by helping to organize the youth of your congregation to attend our retreat!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For all the information on this year's retreat, go to our &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://marshallretreat.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;retreat blog&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6989156853273659112?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6989156853273659112/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6989156853273659112' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6989156853273659112'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6989156853273659112'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/october-5-7-youth-retreat-in-marshall.html' title='October 5-7 Youth Retreat in Marshall, Michigan!'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/Rrt5hXpyVRI/AAAAAAAAADI/PbG4ffvWOyI/s72-c/RetreatPoster.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1296458590526974420</id><published>2007-08-16T14:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-16T15:17:02.872-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tolerance'/><title type='text'>Roman Catholic Bishop tells us to...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20279326/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Call God ‘Allah’ to ease relations!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;'Allah' is the word for 'God' in Arabic and I assume Arabic-speaking Christians use the word, but the idea of non-Arabic speaking believers in the Triune God using the word seems foolish, as imprudent as supposedly Lutheran pastors participating in the Yankee Stadium affair.  The 'allah' of Islam is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; the one true God.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Once again, Roman Catholicism seems to join C.S. Lewis is suggesting that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tash is Aslan and Aslan is Tash.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Ministers of the Gospel, please remember what a wiser Roman Catholic, G.K. Chesteron, once told wrote:  "Tolerance is the virtue of the man with no convictions!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RsTLDfvkOzI/AAAAAAAAAMY/Taawf-EgNwo/s1600-h/tash.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RsTLDfvkOzI/AAAAAAAAAMY/Taawf-EgNwo/s320/tash.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5099423939011296050" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Tash, the Inexorable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-1296458590526974420?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1296458590526974420/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=1296458590526974420' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1296458590526974420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1296458590526974420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/roman-catholic-bishop.html' title='Roman Catholic Bishop tells us to...'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RsTLDfvkOzI/AAAAAAAAAMY/Taawf-EgNwo/s72-c/tash.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6997832422000913552</id><published>2007-08-14T08:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T08:30:59.658-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Issues, Etc. Coming to Detroit</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;...along with Angus Menuge and Jeff Kloha for an Apologetics Conference at Emmanuel-Dearborn on September 23.  Free admission.  More information at &lt;a href="http://emmanueldearborn.org/"&gt;http://emmanueldearborn.org/&lt;/a&gt;.  Click on the poster to enlarge it a little.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RsHIuHpyVSI/AAAAAAAAADQ/UNNc3SjGrCg/s1600-h/Issuesetc.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RsHIuHpyVSI/AAAAAAAAADQ/UNNc3SjGrCg/s400/Issuesetc.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5098576947813963042" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6997832422000913552?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6997832422000913552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6997832422000913552' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6997832422000913552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6997832422000913552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/issues-etc-coming-to-detroit.html' title='Issues, Etc. Coming to Detroit'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RsHIuHpyVSI/AAAAAAAAADQ/UNNc3SjGrCg/s72-c/Issuesetc.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1771814973841811950</id><published>2007-08-05T14:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-05T14:45:05.180-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='soundbites'/><title type='text'>Sound Bite:  Korah's Rebellion Today</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/SOUNDBITE_2007_8_5.mp3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Pastor Roger James on attacks against the Office of Holy Ministry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;(4 minutes, 31 seconds)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-1771814973841811950?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1771814973841811950/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=1771814973841811950' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1771814973841811950'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1771814973841811950'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/sound-bite-korahs-rebellion-today.html' title='Sound Bite:  Korah&apos;s Rebellion Today'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-175033896025181936</id><published>2007-08-05T13:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-05T13:35:28.250-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='OHM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pastor James'/><title type='text'>Pastor Roger James:  Bible Class on Acts 11 &amp; OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RrYzYM4_H8I/AAAAAAAAALE/fWERjYNLjxA/s1600-h/1_Lawandgospel_small.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RrYzYM4_H8I/AAAAAAAAALE/fWERjYNLjxA/s320/1_Lawandgospel_small.jpeg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5095316519286415298" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Today, my pastor taught on Acts 11 and discussed what a biblical elder is (verse 30) and explained, among other things, the qualifications of an elder (pastor) and the importance of the Office of Holy Ministry. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Towards the end of class, I asked him what is at stake today as the Office of Holy Ministry is attacked, as Korah attacked Moses in Numbers 16:3:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;You have gone far enough, for all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is in their midst; so why do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the LORD?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Here is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/BIBLECLASS_2007_8_5.mp3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;an mp3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; of Pastor James' Bible class, one part of this week's podcast, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/audioarchive.htm#podcast"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Law &amp;amp; Gospel at Zion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-175033896025181936?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/175033896025181936/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=175033896025181936' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/175033896025181936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/175033896025181936'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/08/pastor-roger-james-bible-class-on-acts.html' title='Pastor Roger James:  Bible Class on Acts 11 &amp; OHM'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RrYzYM4_H8I/AAAAAAAAALE/fWERjYNLjxA/s72-c/1_Lawandgospel_small.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-7932280157759145457</id><published>2007-07-31T06:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-31T20:43:57.860-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homiletics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quote for the Day'/><title type='text'>Quote for the Day:  Charles H. Spurgeon</title><content type='html'>&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s200/quotationmark.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655084977500802" border="0" /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s1600-h/quotationmarkclose.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s200/quotationmarkclose.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655170876846738" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s1600-h/quotationmark.gif"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;"Never play at preaching, nor beat about the bush; get at it, and always mean business."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;-Charles H. Spurgeon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-7932280157759145457?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/7932280157759145457/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=7932280157759145457' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7932280157759145457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7932280157759145457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/quote-for-day-charles-h-spurgeon.html' title='Quote for the Day:  Charles H. Spurgeon'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s72-c/quotationmark.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2128029687067005323</id><published>2007-07-29T12:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-30T10:21:45.645-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Loose Cannons &amp; the OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rq4aXs4_H6I/AAAAAAAAAK0/nrxSJw7b9PA/s1600-h/cannonropes.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 314px; height: 263px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rq4aXs4_H6I/AAAAAAAAAK0/nrxSJw7b9PA/s400/cannonropes.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5093037223092101026" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;This morning during a Bible class on Acts 11, my pastor mentioned that the first century church had to deal with 'loose cannons' -- those who traveled around the country preaching a variety of doctrines.  One person subsequently asked him how the Office of Holy Ministry protects God's people from the 'loose cannons' of our own day.  Here is his answer:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Bible Class Soundbite:  &lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/SOUNDBITE_2007_7_29.mp3"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Loose Cannons" (7.5 minutes)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note the size of the rope in the above picture that holds that cannon in place, guarding against the danger of hundreds of pounds rolling or even tumbling toward sailors while at sea.  The expression 'loose cannon' intrigued me, so I looked it up online:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"...an irresponsible and reckless individual whose behaviour (either intended or unintended) endangers the group he or she belongs to.  The term originates in the Age of Sail, and wooden men-of-war. When a storm began, all cannons had to be securely fastened and tied in place; otherwise, they would roll uncontrollably around the deck, causing havoc. A loose cannon, weighing hundreds of kilograms, would crush anything and anyone in its path, and possibly even break a hole in the hull, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;thus endangering the seaworthiness of the whole ship..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;     &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_cannon"&gt;-Wikipedia.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;There have always been loose cannons among God's people, folks like Korah, who also had to be 'tied down' by God, in a rather frightful way:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"Korah son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and certain Reubenites—Dathan and Abiram, sons of Eliab, and On son of Peleth—became insolent and rose up against Moses. With them were 250 Israelite men, well-known community leaders who had been appointed members of the council.  They came as a group to oppose Moses and Aaron and said to them, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;'You have gone too far! The whole community is holy, every one of them, and the LORD is with them. Why then do you set yourselves above the LORD's assembly?'  When Moses heard this, he fell on his face.  [...]  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The ground that was under them split open; and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their households, and all the men who belonged to Korah with their possessions.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"   (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2016%20;&amp;version=49;"&gt;Numbers 16:1-4, 31-33&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rq4als4_H7I/AAAAAAAAAK8/K3PoC3JGyKs/s1600-h/rope1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 217px; height: 323px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rq4als4_H7I/AAAAAAAAAK8/K3PoC3JGyKs/s400/rope1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5093037463610269618" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;The Reformation saw the likes of Korah in folks like &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_M%C3%BCntzer"&gt;Thomas Münzer&lt;/a&gt;, and sadly, there are also many today who rise up against the called and ordained servants of the Lord in the Office of Holy Ministry, even in Lutheran churches, and say the very same things.  Without being called and ordained, they rise up in rebellion.  At times, Korah really does sound like a baby-boomer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if folks like Korah might be called loose cannons, what would those ropes be in the 'ship' of Christ's Church?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a Lutheran laymen with a family that I very much want protected from being rolled over by 500 pound cannons, I look first to &lt;a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/concord/web/augs-014.html"&gt;Article 14 of the Augsburg Confession&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;b&gt;"Of Ecclesiastical Order they teach that no one should publicly teach in the Church or administer the Sacraments unless he be regularly called."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Martin Chemnitz also adds:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;It is true that all Christians have a general call to proclaim the Gospel of God, Romans 10:9, to speak the Word of God among themselves, Eph. 5:19; to admonish each other from the Word of God, Col. 3:16; to reprove, Eph. 5:11 [and] to comfort, 1 Th. 4:18.  And family heads are enjoined [to do] this with the special command that they give their households the instruction of the Lord.  Eph 6:4.  &lt;b&gt;But the public ministry of the Word and of the Sacraments in the church is not entrusted to all Christians in general, as we have already shown, 1 Co 12:28; Eph 4:12.&lt;/b&gt;  For a special or particular call is required for this, Ro 10:15.    [p. 29, &lt;i&gt;Ministry, Word, and Sacraments:  An Enchiridion&lt;/i&gt;]  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rqz9ls4_H5I/AAAAAAAAAKs/qqViVB0OyiY/s1600-h/ship.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 327px; height: 234px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rqz9ls4_H5I/AAAAAAAAAKs/qqViVB0OyiY/s200/ship.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5092724102796353426" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;The rope which holds cannons in place that might otherwise damage or even sink a church is indeed found in Article 14; this rope firmly secures hundreds of pounds of enthusiast cannon, as we believe, teach, and confess its truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In these dark days, how cool is that God not only told us where we would find His spirit (in the external Word and Sacrament), but he also points us to this divinely appointed office through which we may confidently receive them!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God continue to protect my family, your family, and all of us from latter-day Korahs, Thomas Münzers, or in other words, the innumerable loose cannons of our day!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TUEBOR!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2128029687067005323?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2128029687067005323/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2128029687067005323' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2128029687067005323'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2128029687067005323'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/loose-canons-ohm.html' title='Loose Cannons &amp; the OHM'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rq4aXs4_H6I/AAAAAAAAAK0/nrxSJw7b9PA/s72-c/cannonropes.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-519605632191023809</id><published>2007-07-28T16:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-28T17:13:27.228-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><title type='text'>A Plug for My Pastor's Podcast</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqvXn84_H0I/AAAAAAAAAKE/DgWQM9SULeg/s1600-h/1_Lawandgospel_small.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqvXn84_H0I/AAAAAAAAAKE/DgWQM9SULeg/s400/1_Lawandgospel_small.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5092400885032492866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;" class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I have just recently resurrected &lt;i&gt;Law and Gospel at Zion&lt;/i&gt;, my pastor's sermon podcast, and we presently only have seven subscribers.  I received some kind feedback from one subscriber, Pastor Fleming up at Our Savior in Grand Rapids, who mentioned while passing through Hillsdale that he has greatly appreciated listening to Pastor James' sermons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are looking for some good sermons to listen to as a supplement to your normal Word intake, I would strongly recommend subscribing.  Also, if you are one of the four unknown subscribers (Erich and I are two), it would be fun to know who you are!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/audioarchive.htm#podcast"&gt;Here is a link with feed and subscription info.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here is a random picture (click for larger view) of Pastor James enjoying one of Erich's hamburgers with Mark, the world's tallest historian, looking on:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;" class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqvaCs4_H3I/AAAAAAAAAKc/cbixI_ewpNc/s1600-h/IMG_0013.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqvaCs4_H3I/AAAAAAAAAKc/cbixI_ewpNc/s400/IMG_0013.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5092403543617249138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;" class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-519605632191023809?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/519605632191023809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=519605632191023809' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/519605632191023809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/519605632191023809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/plug-for-my-pastors-podcast.html' title='A Plug for My Pastor&apos;s Podcast'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqvXn84_H0I/AAAAAAAAAKE/DgWQM9SULeg/s72-c/1_Lawandgospel_small.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-637447569708500159</id><published>2007-07-26T12:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-26T13:03:10.340-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Another Pearl from Pr. Weedon...</title><content type='html'>&lt;!-- Begin .post --&gt;   &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" name="8715177308246953071"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;                                         &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:tDjtUxbewAyMuM:http://www.sainti.org/church/stainedglass/StJames.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:tDjtUxbewAyMuM:http://www.sainti.org/church/stainedglass/StJames.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Posted on Weedon's Blog:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Hymn on St. James' Day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O Lord, for James, we praise You,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Who fell to Herod's sword;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;He drank the cup of suff'ring&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;And thus fulfilled Your word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Lord, curb our vain impatience&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;For glory and for fame,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Equip us for such suff'rings&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;As glorify Your name.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;LSB 518:21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-637447569708500159?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/637447569708500159/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=637447569708500159' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/637447569708500159'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/637447569708500159'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/another-pearl-from-weedon.html' title='Another Pearl from Pr. Weedon...'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3054180626805688120</id><published>2007-07-26T04:03:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-26T04:17:15.404-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Young Pastors Need Special Encouragement</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/2358/1834/240/z/216342/gse_multipart51462.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/2358/1834/240/z/216342/gse_multipart51462.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;St. James the Hoosier (Pr. Jim Roemke) writes: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Confessional pastors need to unite in hospitality and brotherly love toward new pastors.  With one of the biggest classes between the seminaries in years, this is a perfect opportunity to reach out to an impressionable and scarred group of tomorrow's pastors.   &lt;/blockquote&gt;Here's a post on this from his blog:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;h3  class="post-title entry-title" style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                          &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://lutheranhoosier.blogspot.com/2007/07/that-ol-sinful-nature.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://lutheranhoosier.blogspot.com/2007/07/that-ol-sinful-nature.html"&gt;That ol' sinful nature&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;                      &lt;/h3&gt;                        &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;As a new and young pastor I often do not "feel" like I'm really a pastor. I worried about this a lot before ordination. How could I possibly minister to my "elders" with God's Law and His Gospel? Would my congregation take me seriously?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that I am out here, I have found the most amazing reversal of my expectations. My beloved parish has no problem accepting me and has always shown the utmost respect for the Office and for me. What is really surprising is other pastors. I feel so out of place whenever there is a gathering of pastors. Some don't speak to me at all (a few have actually ignored me when I spoke to them!) Some are a bit condescending. Some act suspicious of the "new guy." But, overall, most don't seem to want to take any time at all to even acknowledge me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to say, that ol' sinful nature really gets hurt by this. I want to be accepted by my older brothers. I really want to just sit down and talk with them openly and honestly. Don't get me wrong, there are a couple around me who have been just great.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To other newbies, has this been your experience?  Am I overreacting?  Is this unusual?  Is there something wrong with me?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Check out the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15026486&amp;amp;postID=1461258859737540766"&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3054180626805688120?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3054180626805688120/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3054180626805688120' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3054180626805688120'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3054180626805688120'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/young-pastors-need-special.html' title='Young Pastors Need Special Encouragement'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-4903786842834306871</id><published>2007-07-25T14:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-25T16:24:21.589-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eric Liddell'/><title type='text'>Pastors, Finish the Race!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqfNU84_HzI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/cD9XtPro8fE/s1600-h/bg0014_JPG.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqfNU84_HzI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/cD9XtPro8fE/s400/bg0014_JPG.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5091263663591857970" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;The below two YouTube videos are from the Academy Award winner for best film of 1982, &lt;i&gt;Chariots of Fire&lt;/i&gt;, and if you haven't seen it yet, you ought to.  Based upon a true story, the film has a scene (included in the first video below) in which the Prince of Wales is trying to pressure Eric Liddell (pictured right), a strict Scottish Presbyterian, to run in the Olympic Games on a Sunday, which was against his convictions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After he continues to refuse to run on Sunday, to compromise his convictions, one member of the British Athletic Committee admits that they had attempted to separate Erich Liddell the runner from Erich Liddel the Christian, and since Liddell was a thoroughly integrated man of Christian conviction, it was not only wrong, but futile:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;He did have us beaten, and thank God he did!  The lad, as you call him, is a true man of principle and a true athlete.  His speed is only an extension of his life, his force.  We sought to sever his running from himself.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;The United Kingdom could not have the runner without the Christian, as Liddell's running was a mere extension of his Christian faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I wonder how much 'conflict resolution' in churches today looks the same as the meeting (in the first video) below, for I am afraid that much of such 'counseling' in the secular world is based upon the proposition that all conflicts can be resolve because of an implicit acceptance of some type of egalitarianism rooted in relativism.  I pray that such thinking has not made its way into the Church!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romans 12 has much good counsel that can guide our behavior toward those with whom we disagree, but regarding liberal 'conflict resolution' techniques, verse 18 is directly applicable:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"If possible,&lt;/i&gt; so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;If possible&lt;/i&gt; are the two key words here.  There will be times when pastors will find themselves up against the wall and must, by God's grace, stand fast to their Confession.  Do not compromise!  Most good pastors are certainly willing to compromise in &lt;i&gt;adiaphora&lt;/i&gt;, but any attempts by groups or individuals to manipulate or pressure God's ministers into compromising their biblical convictions regarding the ministry of Word and Sacrament ought to be publicly exposed as evil and opposed by all of God's people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dear pastors, please stand firm and true in the ministry to which Christ has called you -- for our sake and the sake of our children and grandchildren!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please finish the race!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VFO03lMNuGo"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VFO03lMNuGo" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pu-HtYemQYE"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pu-HtYemQYE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;"I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom:  preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.  For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.  As for you, always be sober-minded,  endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.  For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come.  I have fought the good fight, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;I have finished the race&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;, I have kept the faith."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-2 Timothy 4:1-7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-4903786842834306871?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/4903786842834306871/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=4903786842834306871' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4903786842834306871'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4903786842834306871'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/finish-race.html' title='Pastors, Finish the Race!'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqfNU84_HzI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/cD9XtPro8fE/s72-c/bg0014_JPG.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5862623447290068811</id><published>2007-07-23T06:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-24T04:45:48.647-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preacherman'/><title type='text'>Hey, Preacherman James!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqSyLs4_HwI/AAAAAAAAAJk/MiDWQzbfj44/s1600-h/pastor1.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqSyLs4_HwI/AAAAAAAAAJk/MiDWQzbfj44/s400/pastor1.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5090389392933986050" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, or at least Weird Al Yankovic seems to thinks so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope that this is alright with &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/meet-eric-and-polly-rapp-hey-preacher.html"&gt;Eric and Polly Rapp&lt;/a&gt;, but they now have their first cover band out here in the south-central part of the state.  Some of Tim and Erich's kiddos, who call themselves 'Lutheran Chicks', have adopted and sang the Rapps' "Hey, Preacherman" to our own beloved pastor, Roger James.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/Hey,%20Pastor%20James%21.mp3"&gt;Here is an mp3&lt;/a&gt; and here are the lyrics:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hey, Pastor James!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;It brings salvation to those who believe!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You tell us were sinners and Christ died for me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;We want to know what you did last week on your summer vacation,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;What you saw and where you went and who you visited&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;But wait to tell us after the words that give salvation,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;How He lived and how He died for me on the cross&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You give us the Good News of God's Only Son&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You give us His Body and give us His blood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;We love to see you in the front teaching Bible classes,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You answer all our questions and help us understand&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Standing up to read aloud and adjusting your eyeglasses,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;That troublesome Revelation's no longer a mystery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Not with human wisdom, you tell it to us straight&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You let us know we're foolish and lead us to the gate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;We're always looking forward to the next youth activity,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Now that Catechism's over, this is all we have&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;We always have some question for 'Ask the Pastor Night',&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You're ready with an answer and the answer is always right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;You tell us of Jesus who bore all the blame&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Pastor James, you give us the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;When you preach the Gospel, you never are ashamed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;object height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gMQGPi0swPY"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gMQGPi0swPY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5862623447290068811?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5862623447290068811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5862623447290068811' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5862623447290068811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5862623447290068811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/hey-preacherman-james.html' title='Hey, Preacherman James!'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RqSyLs4_HwI/AAAAAAAAAJk/MiDWQzbfj44/s72-c/pastor1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3636829772816511351</id><published>2007-07-21T20:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-21T20:56:14.478-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Spiritual Care for Pastors</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.doxology.us/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 470px; height: 126px;" src="http://www.doxology.us/files/banner.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I found the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.doxology.us/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; to this organization on the LCMS Word Relief and Human Care website.  Here's how they describe their mission:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The primary purpose of this organization shall be to provide ongoing spiritual care opportunities for Lutheran pastors. Participants will be refreshed and equipped as a result of their participation in a program of soul care grounded in Holy Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions. The Center provides a safe environment for clergy to reflect on their own spiritual health and offers a program carefully crafted to help them review and enhance their professional competencies and skills. Doxology strengthens pastors so they can more faithfully pastor others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Program Objectives:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The program curriculum:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Provides resources, insights, teaching, admonition, encouragement, new tools and strategies needed to move beyond “survival functioning in pastoral ministry” to joyful service in the pastoral life and calling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Provides opportunities for immediate and ongoing care to nurture and encourage pastors whose personal lives may have been burdened by stress and isolation or wounded by sin, depression, conflict, fear, or hopelessness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Yields critical insights to enhance the pedagogy of spiritual care and counsel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Benefits from team casuistry and the experience of fellow pastors enrolled in this renewal experience.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Pastors participating in DOXOLOGY will:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Prize and embrace their identity as called and ordained servants of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Explore the art of spiritual care and enhance their skills as physicians of the soul so as to help those entrusted to their care to find health and healing in God through His gracious Word and Sacraments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Choose to benefit from individual spiritual care and personal counsel for restoration by Christ’s healing and peace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Establish and maintain meaningful professional relationships with peers through personal interaction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Return to their parish renewed, strengthened, and equipped in their vocation to preach, teach, and administer God’s Holy sacraments faithfully.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Also check out their &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.doxology.us/resources.html"&gt;Resources&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; page.  Looks like great stuff!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3636829772816511351?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3636829772816511351/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3636829772816511351' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3636829772816511351'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3636829772816511351'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/spiritual-care-for-pastors.html' title='Spiritual Care for Pastors'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2032029281676813281</id><published>2007-07-20T20:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-21T06:10:49.220-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Who Ever Thought it Would be Cool to Hang Out with the Ordained?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;First a quick comment: Pastor Weedon must be the favorite pastor of the HTOOHM clan. If &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;one of us isn't mentioning him in a post, there are probably some emails flying around between us. Once again it is Will Weedon's fault that something is written in the Lutheran Blogosphere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I returned from the fatherland and was catching up on my Issues Etc. listening and I got around to listening to the Pastor Weedon sermon on the July 9th episode (&lt;a href="http://www.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues7/Issues_Etc_Jul_09a.mp3"&gt;http://www.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues7/Issues_Etc_Jul_09a.mp3&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;After I listened to it, I shot Pastor Weedon an email complimenting him on the sermon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I have a dream, and that dream is to hit the Lotto and start the Lutheran version of EWTN and I wrote Pastor Weedon that he has to take on the Father Corapi role (see this post on TUL for a further explanation: &lt;a href="http://theunknownlutheran.blogspot.com/2007/03/yes-i-do-watch-ewtn.html"&gt;http://theunknownlutheran.blogspot.com/2007/03/yes-i-do-watch-ewtn.html&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gX_jockFc4k/RqF9qhlSQlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/Dh9-HcruJk4/s1600-h/prime_04_thursday.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5089487223428104786" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 174px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 197px" height="233" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gX_jockFc4k/RqF9qhlSQlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/Dh9-HcruJk4/s320/prime_04_thursday.jpg" width="201" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;So the correspondence starts about the mutual bad habit of EWTN watching and I started rambling on about the show "Life on the Rock"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Is Fr. Mark  &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(Note: I was wrong as you can see by the picture - Will, please comment on Fr. Francis)&lt;/span&gt; the one that hosts "Life on the Rock"? You ever watch that show? Priests and Friars playing basketball hanging out with the "youth" on the big comfy couch - the "Friar-Cam". Between 18 and 20, I hung out in the rectory of an RC parish in Detroit - I was at Wayne State during the days and working midnights and when I couldn't sleep I hung out there with some friends. The priest was really cool and would just sit around and talk to us and tell about cool stuff like exorcisms. "Life on the Rock" kind of reminds me of that.... I almost converted to the church of papacy at the time, but Fr. left for another parish and the next priest wasn't so nice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" font-style: italic;font-size:18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The point is that "Life on the Rock" is absolutely the cheesiest show featuring the ordained ever, but I miss this kind of experience. I miss hanging out at the church and talking freely with the ordained. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Ironically - all of the other young men hanging out with me when I was that age did not have their own father present in their lives. Our fathers were either drunk, or on to new families, or recent immigrants that didn't quite assimilate into american life. I think that is what made the hours of hanging out there special. I remember one day in which I was very tired - I hadn't slept for a few days and Fr. told me to pray more and it would help me sleep. He cared. He let us hang out. He had something interesting to say. That's what fathers do. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Every once and a while, I hang out with my own pastor, but in reality he isn't there to be my pal or the father figure I never had. A lot of care needs to be taken in such relationships, because the truth is that I am sin sick and it is his job to give me the medicine I need. Sometimes, I don't like the taste of that medicine - but without it, I only have death to look forward to. The guy I like to drink a few beers with, may need to hold me down and give me a strong dose of the Law.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The moral of my rambling is this: Basketball playing clergy, reality TV show clergy, drinking some beers with your pastor, the hippest guy in the room is wearing a black shirt with a white collar - it is awesome to have someone ordained to call your friend or father figure, but the bottom line is that he is not there to fill your need for any human relationship. He is there to bring you Jesus. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2032029281676813281?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2032029281676813281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2032029281676813281' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2032029281676813281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2032029281676813281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/who-ever-thought-it-would-be-cool-to.html' title='Who Ever Thought it Would be Cool to Hang Out with the Ordained?'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gX_jockFc4k/RqF9qhlSQlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/Dh9-HcruJk4/s72-c/prime_04_thursday.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8763687009239840337</id><published>2007-07-20T08:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-21T08:07:44.425-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Erich'/><title type='text'>Well, this explains a few things...</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4AqLMwceHRg"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4AqLMwceHRg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heh, heh.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8763687009239840337?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8763687009239840337/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8763687009239840337' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8763687009239840337'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8763687009239840337'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/well-this-explains-few-things.html' title='Well, this explains a few things...'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3777093252400272221</id><published>2007-07-19T18:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-19T15:20:03.836-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homiletics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Urbanus Rhegius'/><title type='text'>Urbanus Rhegius:  Preaching the Reformation</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s200/quotationmark.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655084977500802" border="0" /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s1600-h/quotationmarkclose.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s200/quotationmarkclose.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655170876846738" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/chemnitzs-little-book-voice-of-shepherd.html"&gt;Pastor Weedon writes:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In the 16th century, this little volume [&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/chemnitzs-little-book-voice-of-shepherd.html"&gt;Ministry, Word, and Sacraments:  An Enchiridion by Martin Chemnitz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;] was published with another one in a single binding.  The other was Urbanus Rhegius' &lt;i&gt;Formulae quaedem caute&lt;/i&gt; - translated for us into English as &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Preaching-Reformation-Homiletical-Translation-1350-1650/dp/0874627079/ref=sr_1_11/002-2634123-9646407?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1184883482&amp;sr=8-11"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Preaching the Reformation&lt;/i&gt; by Scott Hendrix.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It showed the pastors how to speak with caution on a wide range of topics - from the Mass to the Saints to Repentance to Good Works. It was the primarily homiletical textbook of the era. It would be great for our pastors and laity to not only be familiar with Chemnitz' little handbook, but also with Rhegius'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From the intro:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;For years now, with great distress, I have seen in many parts of Germany how often laity have been seriously offended by that confused, inept, and imprudent way of speaking when certain thoughtless know-it-alls, with an inflated estimation of their own knowledge, take no notice of what they say, how they say it, or to whom they are speaking. I will give a few examples of these offensive formulations that corrupt the minds of the laity and drive many away from the Gospel...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3777093252400272221?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3777093252400272221/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3777093252400272221' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3777093252400272221'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3777093252400272221'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/urbanus-rhegius-preaching-reformation.html' title='Urbanus Rhegius:  Preaching the Reformation'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s72-c/quotationmark.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6029268665444074150</id><published>2007-07-18T06:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-20T08:13:33.738-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='consecration'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apostolic succession'/><title type='text'>Ordination: Ears, Thumbs, and Toes</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.wpclipart.com/sign_language/thumbs_up.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.wpclipart.com/sign_language/thumbs_up.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I am currently reading the Old Testament from beginning to end, and I have run into a curious ceremony that I did some research on in order to try to make sense of it.  It is first mentioned in Exodus in the ordination of Aaron and then repeated in Leviticus, which is where I am now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Exodus 29:20:&lt;/b&gt;   Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Leviticus 8:23:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; And he slew it; and Moses took of the blood of it, and put it upon the tip of Aaron's right ear, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; upon the great toe of his right foot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/stories/A_human_ea_m1108235.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 112px; height: 183px;" src="http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/stories/A_human_ea_m1108235.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;From a Jewish website I obtained this interesting &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;historical reference in which Philo comments on the significance of this ordination ceremony for the priests:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;“The fully consecrated [for the priesthood] must be pure in words and actions and in his whole life; for words are judged by hearing, the hand is the symbol of action, and the foot of the p&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;ilgrimage of life” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;(Philo, &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;On the Life of Moses,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; 2:150, as quoted in &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;The Torah: A Modern Commentary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;, ed. W. Gunther Plaut, p. 804).&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;This reminds me of the qualifications for the office of holy ministry, especially those given in 1 Timothy 3.  But there is a further reference to this strange ceremony later in Leviticus which has nothing to do with ordination.  This third reference is what sent me to studying.   It is part of the cleansing of Lepers:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Leviticus 14:14:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;  And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Of course, the question that hit me when I got to this verse is, why is this strange "ordination ceremony" applied &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.ldsces.org/inst_manuals/ot-in-1/images/13-18.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.ldsces.org/inst_manuals/ot-in-1/images/13-18.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;to lepers?  Here I believe we are drawn to the fuller&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; meaning of this strange ceremony as it applies to Christ.  The leper signifies the sinner.   Here we are looking simply at the action of the blood of atonement as an Old Testament means of grace.   I believe the blood is applied to the very tips of these extremities (both to lepers and to Aaron) showing that the cleansing brought by the blood of Christ extends over the entire Christian - that it is all inclusive and sufficient.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;But why not bathe them, head to toe, in the blood of the sacrifice?  Or how about just applying the blood to the leprosy?  I believe the application only to the tips of these extremities represents the forensic nature of justification as an imputation - that is, a declaration of righteousness. And, of course, the declaration of God accomplishes what it says: the entire sinner is covered, and cleansed, by the atonement.  Think of the response of Jesus to Peter when he says "not just my feet, but my hands and head also!"  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;He whom the cleansing and sanctifying power of Jesus in His redemption has touched is altogether clean and holy in the sight of God.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://stupe.lifelogger.com/media/photos0/289076_yrgtsxqglf_vlarge.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://stupe.lifelogger.com/media/photos0/289076_yrgtsxqglf_vlarge.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Applying this back to the consecration for the OHM, we see that it is Christ's all-inclusive atoning sacrifice that sanctifies the pastor in the same way in which he then serves in his calling to apply the all-inclusive/sufficient means of grace to us lepers (sinners) as well -  passing on what he has received, just as Paul says in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;1 Corinthians 15:3-4:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;And here we see true apostolic succession - the passing on of the pure doctrine of grace from man to man.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Thanks be to God!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6029268665444074150?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6029268665444074150/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6029268665444074150' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6029268665444074150'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6029268665444074150'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/ordination-ears-thumbs-and-toes.html' title='Ordination: Ears, Thumbs, and Toes'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-4874510397256585083</id><published>2007-07-18T06:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-20T08:14:11.249-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secret ballots'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fellowship'/><title type='text'>The Emperor's New Clothes:  Talking About Our Problems</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rp47m0sRjSI/AAAAAAAAAIY/8uM3BFRPZz0/s1600-h/blog_secret5.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rp47m0sRjSI/AAAAAAAAAIY/8uM3BFRPZz0/s320/blog_secret5.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5088570167140650274" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I just left some long-winded comments at &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/beggars-all-table-scrap-secret-ballots.html#comments"&gt;my 'Secret Ballots' post.&lt;/a&gt;  Rather than afflict  our main page, I just provide you with its introduction:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;My questioning the practice of secret ballots has had me thinking about how Christians interact with each other or &lt;i&gt;fail&lt;/i&gt; to interact with each other due to our frailty and sin. Secret ballots seem like a small, petty issue, but I am really considering what it means for a congregation to walk in the Light together.  I am now even noticing what I am calling 'biblical openness' in &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/chemnitzs-little-book-voice-of-shepherd.html"&gt;Martin Chemnitz&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am very glad that the comments to this post have clarified things, not only to this blog's readers but also in my own mind.  Yes, I can now see the need for exceptions:  Because of the hardness of the hearts of those whom Solar calls 'political' and also for the sake of the innocent who might suffer at their hands, we should sometimes permit secret ballots on a &lt;i&gt;conditional basis&lt;/i&gt;; but from the beginning it has not been this way, to paraphrase Matthew 19:8.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I continue to think that in so many of our relations with one another, we are hiding behind unbiblical fig leaves, and though due to our frailty they are sometimes necessary, we need to acknowledge that from the beginning it has not been this way...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/beggars-all-table-scrap-secret-ballots.html#comments"&gt;Read the rest here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I welcome your comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-4874510397256585083?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/4874510397256585083/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=4874510397256585083' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4874510397256585083'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4874510397256585083'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/emperors-new-clothes-talking-about-our.html' title='The Emperor&apos;s New Clothes:  Talking About Our Problems'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rp47m0sRjSI/AAAAAAAAAIY/8uM3BFRPZz0/s72-c/blog_secret5.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5015014045277320079</id><published>2007-07-17T23:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-18T09:19:16.648-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the Voice of the Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chemnitz'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='doctrine'/><title type='text'>Chemnitz's Little Book &amp; the Voice of the Shepherd</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rp2ftUsRjRI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/v5LV1uSS_o4/s1600-h/chemnitz_enchiridion.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rp2ftUsRjRI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/v5LV1uSS_o4/s400/chemnitz_enchiridion.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5088398754995866898" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Here is something that I read today that, I think, applies to &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/more-on-apostolicity-and-ohm.html"&gt;what Erich wrote about hearing the Voice of the Shepherd&lt;/a&gt; and also a post over at Cyberstones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interesting enough, I also think that it relates to what I have been writing about the Light of Christ and what I am calling 'biblical openness'; notice how Chemnitz says that &lt;i&gt;everyone should know&lt;/i&gt; what questions will be asked during the biannual examinations of pastors, and what is most interesting is that he says that &lt;i&gt;the laity should also know&lt;/i&gt; what is included in these exams of pastors, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"according to which also the hearers might judge whether their pastors follow the true voice of Christ, the only Chief Shepherd, or if they speak with the voice of a stranger, Jn. 10:3-5."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Really great stuff:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;And since God instituted the ministry for this reason and used it to this end, that the Body of Christ, that is, His church might be built, and ever grow, unto the identifying of itself, Eph 4:16, they that are in the ministry must, with all concern, diligence, and faithfulness, be God’s colaborers, plant, and water, 1 Co 3:6-9, that the Word of God might dwell among us richly in all wisdom, CL 3:16, and all manner or tares of false, erroneous doctrine be rooted up and kept away from these churches by the grace of God, Mt 15:1-13; Acts 20:28-31.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For that reason and in view of this it is decreed in the Christian church order of our illustrious prince and ruler, Lord Julius, duke of Brunswick and Lüneburg, that the examinations be held not only when someone is to be accepted and received into the church ministry, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;but that the superintendents twice a year examine the pastors assigned to their supervision,&lt;/span&gt; so that it might at one and the same time be an indoctrination and instruction regarding the basis and true meaning of the pure doctrine, and how less-learned pastors might arrange their studies, guard against false doctrine, and set the doctrine before their hearer in plain and simple terms, so that through such examinations the whole church, both preachers and hearers, might be edified under divine blessing with great profit and benefit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in order that equality might be preserved in the examinations and the less-learned be able the better to prepare themselves for them, it was resolved in the church consistory, with the gracious previous form of examination --- like that in the consistory  --- used with those who are to be ordained and received into the church ministry be published in written for, so that the superintendents might be able to follow it in the annual visitations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;...also it [this little book] is written in German so that the laity might read and know what is discussed in examinations and what is the model in the chief heads of salutary doctrine, according to which also the hearers might judge whether their pastors follow the true voice of Christ, the only Chief Shepherd, or if they speak with the voice of a stranger, Jn. 10:3-5.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Martin Chemnitz in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Word-Sacraments-Martin-Chemnitz/dp/0570032954"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ministry, Word, and Sacramanets:  An Enchiridian.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  Trans. Luther Poellot.  St. Louis:  CPH, 1981.  Pages 16-17.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;How this sounds long ago in a galaxy far, far away!  How truly blessed are those Christians who have pastors that would heartily welcome such examinations! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5015014045277320079?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5015014045277320079/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5015014045277320079' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5015014045277320079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5015014045277320079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/chemnitzs-little-book-voice-of-shepherd.html' title='Chemnitz&apos;s Little Book &amp; the Voice of the Shepherd'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rp2ftUsRjRI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/v5LV1uSS_o4/s72-c/chemnitz_enchiridion.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1542321868462095965</id><published>2007-07-16T16:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-18T09:19:48.500-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Eric &amp; Polly!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" href="http://weedon.blogspot.com/2007/07/country-music.html#555568655929400838"&gt;On Weedon's Blog:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;wm cwirla said...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"The MI couple rocks!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Of course, we already knew that!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-1542321868462095965?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1542321868462095965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=1542321868462095965' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1542321868462095965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1542321868462095965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/eric-polly.html' title='Eric &amp; Polly!'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5020732285321497068</id><published>2007-07-16T08:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-16T09:30:57.797-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thomas á Kempis Weighes In...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Often I comment on a post and then realize it has become a post of its own.  Here is one such comment:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it is a very healthy thing to pretend that all private discussions are public, thinking "what if my mother (pastor, friends, family, neighbor, etc.) were listening?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm reminded of many stories I've heard (and even experienced first-hand) of people being greatly hurt by hearing conversations that occurred when the speakers didn't know that others really were listening.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;All our words and even our private thoughts are heard by our Father in Heaven. That in itself should be enough to temper all our doings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that in mind, listen to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_%C3%A0_Kempis" rel="nofollow"&gt;Thomas á Kempis&lt;/a&gt;,  in &lt;i&gt;The&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;i&gt; Imitation of Christ&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.misticismo.blogger.com.br/Thomas%20a%20Kempis.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 247px; height: 352px;" src="http://www.misticismo.blogger.com.br/Thomas%20a%20Kempis.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The Tenth Chapter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Avoiding Idle Talk&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SHUN the gossip of men as much as possible, for discussion of worldly affairs, even though sincere, is a great distraction inasmuch as we are quickly ensnared and captivated by vanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many a time I wish that I had held my peace and had not associated with men. Why, indeed, do we converse and gossip among ourselves when we so seldom part without a troubled conscience? We do so because we seek comfort from one another's conversation and wish to ease the mind wearied by diverse thoughts. Hence, we talk and think quite fondly of things we like very much or of things we dislike intensely. But, sad to say, we often talk vainly and to no purpose; for this external pleasure effectively bars inward and divine consolation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore we must watch and pray lest time pass idly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;When the right and opportune moment comes for speaking, say something that will edify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bad habits and indifference to spiritual progress do much to remove the guard from the tongue. Devout conversation on spiritual matters, on the contrary, is a great aid to spiritual progress, especially when persons of the same mind and spirit associate together in God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;And again, listen to this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Thomas_%C3%A0_Kempis.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 136px; height: 181px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Thomas_%C3%A0_Kempis.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Chapter 9&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Obedience and Discipline&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is an excellent thing to live under obedience to a superior, and not to be one's own master. It is much safer to obey than to rule. Many live under obedience more of necessity than of love and such people are often discontented and complaining. They will never attain freedom of mind unless they submit with their whole heart for the love of God. Go where you please, but nowhere will you find rest except in humble obedience under the rule of a superior. Preference for other places and desire for change have unsettled many.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone gladly does whatever he most likes, and likes best those who think as he does; but if God is to dwell among us we must sometimes yield our own opinion for the sake of peace. Who is so wise that he knows all things? So do not place too much reliance on the rightness of your own view but be ready to consider the views of others. If your opinion is sound, and you forego it for the love of God and follow that of another, you will win great merit. I have often heard that is safer to accept advice than to give it. It may even come about that each of two opinions is good; but to refuse to come to an agreement with others when reason or occasion demand it is a sign of pride and obstinacy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Thomas á Kempis' last name was Hämerken, "Little Hammer." I consider him a big hammer, because his writings convict me of so much that is sinful within me. For that reason I find it beneficial to read him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5020732285321497068?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5020732285321497068/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5020732285321497068' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5020732285321497068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5020732285321497068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/thomas-kempis-weighes-in.html' title='Thomas á Kempis Weighes In...'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3825875651880284824</id><published>2007-07-16T05:06:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-16T05:46:25.071-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the idol of relevance'/><title type='text'>Sean:  More Thoughts on Children's Sermons</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RptfYksRjKI/AAAAAAAAAHY/WB0EhRqq1uA/s1600-h/face_sean.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RptfYksRjKI/AAAAAAAAAHY/WB0EhRqq1uA/s320/face_sean.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087765079815982242" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Our resident hot Lutheran posted some more good thoughts on children's sermons that might add some additional clarity to&lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/whats.html"&gt; our discussion at Eric's post.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is his &lt;a href="http://lpfankabe.blogspot.com/2007/07/childrens-sermons-and-regular-sermons.html"&gt;Hot Lutheran on Hot Lutheran Action&lt;/a&gt; post in its entirety:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;      Childrens' Sermons and Regular Sermons        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The childrens' sermon comes from a philosophy that would say "we must target and minister to groups individually and specially if we are to be effective or if we are to do the will of God". The Church, rather, ministers as Christ instituted it: Word and Sacrament ministry, which is targeted at everyone and is effective on everyone. It is not subjective to various groups, but objective for all groups. We all have the same problem: we are sinners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's ironic, but in the attempt to make someone feel included, doing "special" things for "special" people actually makes them and everyone else excluded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To tell someone "pay attention, this part of the service is especially for you" also inherently says "the rest of the service is not especially for you".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The liturgy IS for children. Hymns ARE for children. The lection IS for children. The sermon [proper] IS for children. The prayers ARE for children. The confession &amp; absolution IS for children. Baptism IS for children. As is evident by numerous debates in Church history, the Supper IS also to be for children, even if the details of how we are to practice that belief are not agreed upon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point is that the WHOLE service is for the WHOLE congregation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us not tell the children what they will not like, what they will not understand, what they will not appreciate, or what they will not benefit from. I have little doubt that children frequently learn more, understand more, appreciate more, and practice more than their elder brothers and sisters in Christ, who lack an excuse for their inability to pay attention. *cue Luther rant about dogs and the insolent German people*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One pastor was thinking out loud one day to me about struggling with a coming service. It was pentecost (therefore a longer service), confirmation, a Divine Service, and there were many announcements to make also. In order to keep the service under an hour [sic], "cuts" needed to be made. This pastor considered out loud how "Well, I certainly can't cut communion, and I don't want to skip these special liturgical elements that I have decided to use... and I won't cut the children's sermon." In the end, the ingredients [double sic] he chose to cut were parts of the ordinary, propers, hymn stanzas, and prayers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead of cutting "special" things meant to target specific people, perhaps it would be better to keep more of the objective and primary parts of the service. PERHAPS, if anything is to be cut down, it should be the sermon. Many pastors seem to think (and indeed say) that the reason people come or don't come to Church is the sermon. I am not so sure that the sermon is the most important part of the service. Certainly, as they say, no one goes to the parking lot singing the pastor's sermon.... Even if you have heard a dissapointing, long and boring, or confusing sermon, you still have everything else: God's Word in the lectionary, liturgy, and hymnody. His Word of forgiveness pronounced by the pastor. His precious life-giving Body and Blood put in your very mouth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Liturgy and hymns are concise. Nothing is more concise than the sacraments (all three, if you will). Peter's sermon on Pentecost was certainly concise, and definetely effective.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;As a related plug, I would strongly recommend &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Prophetic-Untimeliness-Challenge-Idol-Relevance/dp/0801012600"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Prophetic Untimeliness:  A Challenge to the Idol of Relevance&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;by Os Guinness.  Sean's points on doing things special, in addition to making me think of the Dana Carvey's Church Lady, also made me think of what Os Guinness said in this fine little book:  By attempting to be so very relevant, the church has become completely irrelevant.  You can listen to his 2004 &lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.issuesetc.org/"&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/a&gt; interview on this book &lt;a href="http://www.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues/Oct_019a.mp3"&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here, of course, is the very finest example of 'cultural relevance' in Christian worship services -- compliments of the Simpsons:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7Df7gTjUMAE"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7Df7gTjUMAE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3825875651880284824?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3825875651880284824/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3825875651880284824' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3825875651880284824'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3825875651880284824'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/sean-more-thoughts-on-childrens-sermons.html' title='Sean:  More Thoughts on Children&apos;s Sermons'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RptfYksRjKI/AAAAAAAAAHY/WB0EhRqq1uA/s72-c/face_sean.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-1354599794349184978</id><published>2007-07-15T20:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-16T04:43:13.978-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='President Kieschnick'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rev. Matt Harrison'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fourth Commandment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='LCMS'/><title type='text'>Praying for One's Pastors and Leaders</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RptZNEsRjJI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/yJYJG-HrJ18/s1600-h/presidentK.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RptZNEsRjJI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/yJYJG-HrJ18/s400/presidentK.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087758285177719954" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;It appears that LCMS Synodical President Kieschnick was re-elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;When I was in the LCMS, I bashed him as often as I could.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I am in my second year of being in the WELS and to be brutally frank - I have continued to bash him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;I'm done now. We &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;all need to be done now. We should pray for him and pray that he does well and leads in a way that is true to the Scriptures and the Confessions. And in the spririt of this blog I put out the call for less Kieschnick bashing and more praying. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't speak the truth in love and even cut with the Law - but the club we confessionals have been using ain't working folks. We need to pray. We need to pray that in the course of the next three years his eyes are opened and that a return to Lutheran orthodoxy rises up amongst all of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;However, this is no reason we cannot think ahead is there?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Rev.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; Matt Harrison. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;The LCMS has a real talent in this man. Street cred as the leader of LCMS Human Care and more important the man can preach- I mean an honest to goodness Lutheran sermon that Walther would be proud of!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Be patient. Three years isn't that long.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Who knows - my WELS exile may be over by then.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-1354599794349184978?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1354599794349184978/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=1354599794349184978' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1354599794349184978'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/1354599794349184978'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/praying-for-ones-pastors-and-leaders.html' title='Praying for One&apos;s Pastors and Leaders'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RptZNEsRjJI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/yJYJG-HrJ18/s72-c/presidentK.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6016236097081326405</id><published>2007-07-15T05:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-16T04:43:46.385-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sasse'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apostolicity'/><title type='text'>More on Apostolicity and the OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RppoH0sRjGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/ypWKVCmxacw/s1600-h/sasse.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RppoH0sRjGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/ypWKVCmxacw/s320/sasse.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087493212681112674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Pr. Weedon suggested Sasse's very fine essay on the whole notion of apostolic succession in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;We Confess&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; series published by CPH.  I've finished reading it again, and will here give my own brief summary of his arguments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Sasse begins by pointing out that there are three aspects of "apostolicity" to debate:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;apostolicitas originis, successionis, doctrinae.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Then he argues that all churches claim apostolicity of origin, pointing out that: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"Whether any church has its origin in the church of the New Testament or not is simply a matter of faith."  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Ultimately this is a question of apostolicity of doctrine, because:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"The answer has to do with whether I consider the doctrine of my church to be apostolic."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Next he destroys the idea that any particular apostolicity of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;succession&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; can be demonstrated, giving a cursory history of the attempts to create lists and the different purposes those lists were created for.  He also quotes the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;Didache&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt; (15:1) which gives advice to congregations in case there are no wandering apostles, prophets, or teachers among them:  "Elect therefore for yourselves bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord..." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;This alone shows that the emphasis on an unbroken succession of consecration of bishops is a relatively modern construct. Rather, what has always been debated in the church is apostolicity of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;doctrine.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Sasse spends some time on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;sola Scriptura &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;in which he acknowledges that Paul speaks of the receiving and passing on of a tradition (1 Cor. 11:23 and 15:3):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;In the New Testament we do have tradition in the sense of the message of the Gospel, or some particular message, being faithfully kept and handed on (1 Tim. 6:29), without addition or subtraction (Rev. 22:18-19).  This "tradition," however, whether it be the oral proclamation of the apostles or whether it was already written down, has nothing to do with a tradition which was later placed in opposition to Scripture.  The apostolic witness cannot be divided into what was preached and what was written down.  these are one and the same.  The authentic doctrinal tradition of the church in the sense of the New Testament is never anything else that the living transmission of this witness in preaching and instruction.  It can never be an independent source of revelation.  Authentic apostolic succession, then, is always and only the succession of doctrine.  It may be known by its identity with the witness of the apostles in the New Testament.  In this way, the content of what is proclaimed by any and every church is to be weighed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is indeed also a succession of teachers who have faithfully proclaimed the apostolic message.  But who these surely are only God knows, just as He alone "knows those who are His," who are truly His church [2 Tim 2:19].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;And here is where what I wrote in the post below becomes the first principle from which I know that our pastor has apostolicity:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The question of whether or not a pastor is a valid pastor is answered rightly only by whether or not he preaches the true Gospel. The Augsburg Confession states that the "Church" is found where the Word is preached in its purity and the Sacraments are rightly administered. How do we define pure Word and Sacrament? - that taught and practiced according to the one pure fount and source of God's revelation: SCRIPTURE, interpreted according to the central doctrine of Christianity that separates us from ALL other religions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is that central doctrine? That THE ONE TRUE GOD is the God who saved me ALL BY HIMSELF, with no help from me or anybody else. All my sins are imputed to Christ, and all His righteousness is imputed to me. That's the only God I can have faith in! The One with pure monergistic grace - something ALL the other "Christian" denominations deny.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lutheranism alone teaches the pure monergistic grace of God in Christ Jesus. This is what sets us apart from all others. How do I know the voice of the Shepherd? When I hear Him tell me my sins are forgiven - unconditionally. Anyone who claims to speak the Word of the Shepherd yet preaches a synergistic salvation is a false shepherd. All Roman Catholic priests preach a synergistic salvation. Therefore they are false shepherds - not members of the apostolic succession. The Apostle Paul preached salvation by faith alone, "and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6016236097081326405?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6016236097081326405/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6016236097081326405' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6016236097081326405'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6016236097081326405'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/more-on-apostolicity-and-ohm.html' title='More on Apostolicity and the OHM'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RppoH0sRjGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/ypWKVCmxacw/s72-c/sasse.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-7677853149532260860</id><published>2007-07-14T05:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-14T11:43:59.927-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secret ballots'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='screwtape'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fellowship'/><title type='text'>Secret Ballots and the OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rpjj_0sRjAI/AAAAAAAAAGI/VI2Z024p0NQ/s1600-h/blog_secret8.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rpjj_0sRjAI/AAAAAAAAAGI/VI2Z024p0NQ/s320/blog_secret8.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087066464730582018" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"The mask you wear before men will do you no good before Him. He wants to see you as you are, He wants to be gracious to you... He wants to love you."&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;-Dietrich Bonhoeffer in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Together-Classic-Exploration-Community/dp/0060608528"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Life Together&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Does your congregation or church body allow secret ballots in its meetings,  assemblies, or conventions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think that this practice is biblical?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It deeply concerns me when brothers and sisters in Christ demand secret ballots, for I have never heard of a single good reason for the practice, and frankly, they seem completely counter to biblical Christianity and dangerous to the health of a congregation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me explain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The whole &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300050607/sr=1-1/qid=1147231724/ref=sr_1_1/002-7423882-8409617?%5Fencoding=UTF8"&gt;&lt;i&gt;democratization of American Christianity&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; puzzles me.  Lutheran churches have adopted practices like voters' assemblies and congregational meetings, and the way such meetings are sometimes run, with secret ballots, seems to be clear evidence of, and I hate to use this term, a &lt;i&gt;dysfunctional&lt;/i&gt; church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rpjca0sRi9I/AAAAAAAAAFw/ikkj9vFGxMQ/s1600-h/blog_secret4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rpjca0sRi9I/AAAAAAAAAFw/ikkj9vFGxMQ/s200/blog_secret4.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087058132494027730" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The fact that Christians are sometimes unwilling to publicly say what they think and submit it to God's Word for brotherly discussion, evaluation, and if necessary, correction, --&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;this is counter to the Christian faith and fellowship and is a very dangerous practice in the life of a congregation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are some initial reasons for this assertion:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;1.  Perhaps those who want secret ballots are afraid of being mistreated or ridiculed for having certain opinions. In this case, those with differing views might need to change or even repent.  Even if we are right, we are called to correct our brothers and sisters "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ." (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%206:1-5;&amp;version=49;"&gt;Galatians 6:1-5, NASB&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secrecy can foster an 'Us vs. Them' mentality among brothers and sisters in Christ and allow both fear and suspicion to undermine genuine fellowship.  Secret ballots allow Christians to continue in fear and suspicion of each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpkTsUsRjFI/AAAAAAAAAGw/J8WNfLwTz28/s1600-h/blog_secret1.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpkTsUsRjFI/AAAAAAAAAGw/J8WNfLwTz28/s200/blog_secret1.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087118906281266258" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;2. Perhaps Christians want secret ballots because they cannot explain their opinions in the light of God's Word and are therefore, at best, basing their votes upon subjective feelings.  Or graver still, maybe they know that what they are voting for is not in accord with God's Word.    Such situations are, of course, not good for the congregation or the voters themselves, for such voters who wish to affect the life of a congregation behind the curtain of secrecy are merely being "tossed about by every wind of doctrine" and their unbiblical voices are affecting the life of the congregation without the possibility of correction that openness provides.  This is &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; dangerous situation, for decisions about Christ's Church are made out of emotion or sin, rather than out faith in God and His Word. (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%204:14-16;&amp;version=49;"&gt;Ephesians 4:14-16, NASB&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;3.  Perhaps those who want their votes to be secret just don't like the pastor because he faithfully preaches and teaches God's Word in undiluted Law and Gospel. If this is the case, then I would even say that such opposition to the Office of Holy Ministry is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;demonic&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt; in nature and needs to be brought to the Light and then seriously and tenaciously opposed by God's people.  Such voters need to be brought to repentance, and the use of secret ballots in this case is endangering their souls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;4.  Perhaps there is some hidden, unbiblical agenda, coordinated in political conventicles.  It is no secret that people bring the political ways of this world into Christ's Church, and this is also a dangerous situation that must be rooted out by God's people, for Jesus said, &lt;i&gt;"I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life!"&lt;/i&gt;  (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:12;&amp;version=49;"&gt;John 8:12, NASB&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpjmkUsRjBI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/ie17uLLF0gI/s1600-h/blog_secret7.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpjmkUsRjBI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/ie17uLLF0gI/s200/blog_secret7.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087069290819062802" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Every public matter in the life of a church should be brought forth and dealt with openly under the Light of God's Word.  Satan is, as Samwise Gamgee called Gollum in &lt;i&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/i&gt;, a &lt;i&gt;slinker, &lt;/i&gt;and as we learned from &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/screwtape-and-office-of-holy-ministry.html"&gt;Screwtape&lt;/a&gt;, the Father of Lies thrives upon secrecy.  Therefore, it is of utmost importance that members of a congregation stand together under Holy Scripture and its faithful exposition in the Office of Holy Ministry.  We must expose the slinker for what he is, even as he attempts to work his mischief through secrecy in the midst of a congregation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Father of Lies wants to hold God's people in the bondage of false belief.  We know that this is certainly true, so out of Christian love and concern for those who wish secret ballots, we must reject such secrecy and ask for a biblical openness.  But Christians should not seek such openness for political purposes, but rather, out of a desire for true Christian fellowship.  The Gospel of Christ calls believers to openness and honesty in our relationships with God and with each other, so that we might enjoy peace and true fellowship of the Spirit through God's Word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christians are called to &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%201;&amp;version=49;"&gt;walk in the light&lt;/a&gt;, and because of the grace of God in Jesus Christ, we can, indeed, take off our masks and bring everything out into the light where it can be approved, corrected, healed, or forgiven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpjbAksRi8I/AAAAAAAAAFo/ySiMY9uMAP0/s1600-h/blog_secret3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpjbAksRi8I/AAAAAAAAAFo/ySiMY9uMAP0/s320/blog_secret3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087056582010833858" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In his &lt;a href="http://www.bookofconcord.org/smallcatechism.html#lordsprayer"&gt;Small Catechism&lt;/a&gt;, Martin Luther explains that in the sixth petition of the Lord's Prayer, we are instructed to pray "that God would guard and keep us, so that the devil, the world, and our flesh may not deceive us, nor seduce us into misbelief, despair, and other great shame and vice."  Misbelief or false belief is, indeed, a grave sin to which we are constantly tempted; and it is a sin of which we must repent.  Tragically, however, secret ballots help us keep this sin hidden, where correction cannot take place through biblical catehesis or where the healing power of Christ's blood cannot be applied through Holy Absolution.  And as Dietrich Bonhoeffer so astutely observed in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Together-Classic-Exploration-Community/dp/0060608528"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Life Together&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, "He who is alone with his sin is utterly alone."  Therefore, Christian charity for our brothers and sisters demands that we reject the continued practice of secrecy.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpkTP0sRjEI/AAAAAAAAAGo/GBxl7xW9Fcg/s1600-h/blog_secret5.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpkTP0sRjEI/AAAAAAAAAGo/GBxl7xW9Fcg/s200/blog_secret5.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087118416654994498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Indeed, secret ballots seem to fly in the face of both the nature of Christ (especially in the Gospel of John with its emphasis on light and darkness) and the biblical doctrine of Christian fellowship, through which we are called to 'walk in the Light'.  Secret ballots can be used as masks that enable us to avoid the Light of our Lord, so that we do not have to explain our decisions, enter into fruitful dialogue with our brothers and sisters in Christ, or submit ourselves to the Light of God's Word and the Office of Holy Ministry.  Secret ballots are one disturbing symptom of sickness in the life of a congregation, one tactic of the enemy's gorilla warfare of darkness against the Light of God's Word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today the 63rd Convention of my church body, the &lt;a href="http://www.lcms.org/"&gt;Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod,&lt;/a&gt; commences at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, Texas.  The word &lt;i&gt;synod&lt;/i&gt; means 'walking together', but how can we join arms in our journey together if we hide them behind our backs in fear and suspicion?  Or how can we possibly obey God's command:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%204:1-3;&amp;version=49;"&gt;Ephesians 4:1-3, NASB&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;How is Christian fellowship in the 'unity of the Spirit' under God's Word even possible when we have moved from  an open, biblical "Here we stand" approach to witness and fellowship, to a political, individualist "Here I... &lt;i&gt;it's none of your business!"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;In conclusion, I would suggest that the continued worldly secrecy in relations between brothers and sisters in Christ is clear evidence that our churches have imbibed political ways of relating to each other that are based upon ungodly concepts of power and individualism, rather than upon a biblical understanding of Christian fellowship that teaches us to bear one another's burdens and speak the truth of God's Word to each other in love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;This widespread infection of political and individualist thinking needs to be marked and rejected by pastors, boards of elders, and church councils for the sake of Christ and His Church.  We must not be "conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds, so that we would may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect."  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans+12:2"&gt;Romans 12:2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Pax Christi.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-7677853149532260860?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/7677853149532260860/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=7677853149532260860' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7677853149532260860'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7677853149532260860'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/beggars-all-table-scrap-secret-ballots.html' title='Secret Ballots and the OHM'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rpjj_0sRjAI/AAAAAAAAAGI/VI2Z024p0NQ/s72-c/blog_secret8.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-170099014635676417</id><published>2007-07-12T07:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-12T10:28:47.469-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastors&apos; families'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='boards of elders'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='double honor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='church councils'/><title type='text'>Pastor Inqvist's Trip to Orlando</title><content type='html'>&lt;object height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QAZC0PSI-3Q"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/QAZC0PSI-3Q" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-170099014635676417?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/170099014635676417/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=170099014635676417' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/170099014635676417'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/170099014635676417'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/pastor-inqvists-trip-to-orlando.html' title='Pastor Inqvist&apos;s Trip to Orlando'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3612209576226987721</id><published>2007-07-11T13:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-15T18:18:38.215-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='circuit counselors'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='complaints'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='soundbites'/><title type='text'>Issues, Etc. Soundbite:  'I get nothing out of my pastor's worship services!'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpVGUzF3svI/AAAAAAAAAEo/RkWUmS5mV6c/s1600-h/weedon.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpVGUzF3svI/AAAAAAAAAEo/RkWUmS5mV6c/s320/weedon.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5086048677311001330" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Rev. William Weedon, pastor of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.stpaullutheranchurchhamel.org/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;St. Paul Lutheran Church in Hamel, Illinois&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;, during an April 18, 2004 interview on KFUO's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kfuoam.org/IE_Main.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;, recalls one circuit counselor's very wise, pastoral response to a lady's impassioned complaint about the office of holy ministry in her church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Interview Sound Bite:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/weedon.mp3"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;"I just get nothing out of my pastor's worship services!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt; (2:29)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Entire Interview:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues4/Apr_18a.mp3"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Myths About Worship - Hour 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues4/Apr_18b.mp3"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Myths About Worship - Hour 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3612209576226987721?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3612209576226987721/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3612209576226987721' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3612209576226987721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3612209576226987721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/issues-etc-soundbite-i-just-get-nothing.html' title='Issues, Etc. Soundbite:  &apos;I get nothing out of my pastor&apos;s worship services!&apos;'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpVGUzF3svI/AAAAAAAAAEo/RkWUmS5mV6c/s72-c/weedon.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-4383709875927164275</id><published>2007-07-11T02:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-11T15:02:12.883-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the Law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confession'/><title type='text'>The Beichtspiegel and the OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RpSt0UPG5II/AAAAAAAAACk/9k11rnwpfos/s1600-h/queenandmirror.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RpSt0UPG5II/AAAAAAAAACk/9k11rnwpfos/s200/queenandmirror.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5085880993505010818" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here is a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.lcceastdistrict.ca/Publications/SelfExam%20Reflection%20Booklet.pdf"&gt;beichtspiegel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; (confessional mirror) written by Dr. Ken Korby  [clicking on the link will download the pdf version].  For those who are not familiar with what a "beichtspiegel" is, it is used as an aid in preparing for confession and absolution.  This brief one by Korby would be easy to print off for members of the congregation to use.  It is formated as a single sheet to be folded in half.  There is also an excellent beichtspiegel printed in the back of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.emmanuelpress.us/"&gt;Brotherhood Prayer Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; [BPB].  It's too bad one was not included in the LSB.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I mention the beichtspiegel here on this blog with special reference to the following questions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RpSvIkPG5JI/AAAAAAAAACs/ErhOaou8dCs/s1600-h/drawing_confession.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RpSvIkPG5JI/AAAAAAAAACs/ErhOaou8dCs/s200/drawing_confession.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5085882440908989586" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Third Commandment:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Do I spend time complaining about the worship, the pastor or other people?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I destroyed the blessing of the divine service for myself and others with frivolous criticism?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Fourth Commandment:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Has the fear and love of God shaped my honor and obedience to parents and others in authority?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I trusted God to bless me and make my life good when I submit to the authority of parents and those over me, or have I been angry with them, rebelling, fighting against them because I was afraid I was not getting what I had a right to get?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I been insolent, sullen and disrespectful to my parents, teachers, employers or other authorities over me?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I been on good behavior when they are present and mocking them when they are absent?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I given honor and respect to the pastoral office?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I helped those who carry responsibilities in governing? Do I pray for parents, leaders of the nations, schools and church? Do I grumble about work given me to do?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Have I helped make it easier for those who carry responsibilities for governing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-4383709875927164275?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/4383709875927164275/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=4383709875927164275' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4383709875927164275'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/4383709875927164275'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/beichtspiegel-and-ohm.html' title='The Beichtspiegel and the OHM'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/RpSt0UPG5II/AAAAAAAAACk/9k11rnwpfos/s72-c/queenandmirror.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8028465193911882318</id><published>2007-07-10T16:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-16T07:44:04.514-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CCA'/><title type='text'>Is My Pastor Valid and Due the Honor of the OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/3/30/Priestly_ordination.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/3/30/Priestly_ordination.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:130%;" &gt;I saw &lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288841,00.html"&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; earlier today. The Pope's Words are hogwash.  Basically the Pope (the "Antichrist" according to our Lutheran Confessions) is saying that if your pastor didn't have hands laid upon him by someone in direct succession (all having hands laid upon them) from the apostles, your pastor is not valid and you do not have the means of grace.  Of course this is nothing new to Roman Catholic dogma.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's as if the pastoral ministry is something that is only valid if you have the direct validation of a member of the club who had it from a member of the club who had it from a member of the club.  Have all members of the club been good judges of whether or not someone should be allowed to join the club?  I think not!  Ordination is necessary, but apostolic succession is not.  And "ordination" is not the laying on of hands.  The laying on of hands is simply a tradition.  You could lay your feet on someone and achieve the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question of whether or not a pastor is a valid pastor is answered rightly only by whether or not he preaches the true Gospel.  The Augsburg Confession states that the "Church" is found where the Word is preached in its purity and the Sacraments are rightly administered.  How do we define pure Word and Sacrament? - that taught and practiced according to the one pure fount and source of God's revelation: SCRIPTURE, interpreted according to the central doctrine of Christianity that separates us from ALL other religions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is that central doctrine? That THE ONE TRUE GOD is the God who saved me ALL BY HIMSELF, with no help from me or anybody else. All my sins are imputed to Christ, and all His righteousness is imputed to me. That's the only God I can have faith in! The One with pure monergistic grace - something ALL the other "Christian" denominations deny.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lutheranism alone teaches the pure monergistic grace of God in Christ Jesus. This is what sets us apart from all others. How do I know the voice of the Shepherd? When I hear Him tell me my sins are forgiven - unconditionally. Anyone who claims to speak the Word of the Shepherd yet preaches a synergistic salvation is a false shepherd.  All Roman Catholic priests preach a synergistic salvation.  Therefore they are false shepherds - not members of the apostolic succession.  The Apostle Paul preached salvation by faith alone, "and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This question of whether or not Lutherans have the office of holy ministry must be addressed more adequately by us.  It's at the heart of the questions many who are tempted to Rome or Constantinople are struggling with.  All arguments regarding  this ends up being circular in some respect, whether from the Roman, Eastern, or Lutheran perspective.  But we need to do a better job of articulating our position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really hope that Pr. Bender might consider switching the topic of next year's CCA symposium to the OHM.  If the participants do as good a job with the OHM topic as they did on this year's topic of the church, the result will be a tremendous blessing to us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Follow-up post &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/more-on-apostolicity-and-ohm.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8028465193911882318?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8028465193911882318/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8028465193911882318' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8028465193911882318'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8028465193911882318'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/i-saw-this-article-earlier-today-and.html' title='Is My Pastor Valid and Due the Honor of the OHM'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6747935503467322657</id><published>2007-07-09T15:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-16T07:39:49.628-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='OHM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='screwtape'/><title type='text'>Screwtape and the Office of Holy Ministry</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpuC0ksRjQI/AAAAAAAAAII/zgPqT20jgH4/s1600-h/screwtapelogo.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpuC0ksRjQI/AAAAAAAAAII/zgPqT20jgH4/s400/screwtapelogo.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5087804043759291650" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Almost immediately after &lt;a href="http://www.ctsfw.edu/admission/staff/index.php#zimmerman"&gt;Pastor Thomas Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt; of Concordia Theological Seminary preached at our church last week about a very discouraged Elijah, as described in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2019;&amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Kings 19&lt;/a&gt;, I came into possession of a very strange letter written by someone called &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters"&gt;Screwtape&lt;/a&gt; to a junior devil by the name of Wormwood.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps this intercepted letter might provide us some helpful intelligence on how the devil  attempts to discourage pastors, much like Elijah was tempted after his big day at Mount Carmel (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2018:20-46;&amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Kings 18:20-46&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;And so, I pass this odd correspondence along to you for your consideration:   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;My dear Wormwood:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am beginning to suspect that you do not realize the significance of your present assignment, for he has been set apart by the Enemy for a particularly dangerous purpose, and his case, therefore, demands our special attention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot emphasize enough the importance of paying particular attention to those vermin, like your present patient, that the Enemy foolishly chooses as His miserable instruments, those called 'pastors' within His ranks, for they continue to do so much regretable damage to our glorious cause.  It really is quite aggravating, for after all, it is only the Enemy's unfair advantage over us that makes these ridiculous specimens so dangerous in His hands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And all the Enemy does is smile down at them, as they stumble through their ridiculous duties, parroting whatever He tells them.  I will not even mention the absurd way that He carries on about those detestable multitudes that are lost to us through these loathsome servants of His. And then there are the ridiculous, repugnant ways that He uses these pastors, first that abhorrent Voice and then -- and this is almost too revolting to mention -- that water, bread, and wine, which are somehow joined with that, again, &lt;i&gt;that infuriating Voice!  &lt;/i&gt;Oh, Wormwood, to be undone by that which is so common, illogical, and unspiritual, all the while with that irritating smile beaming down upon them all. One would think that the Enemy actually likes the miserable creatures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not suppose that the Enemy's very different smiles and infuriating laughter that He directs at us mean that this ridiculous magic show is merely a bad joke, for we must consider the grave results that it has rendered against us for nearly 2,000 years.  We can be certain that Our Father Below, a true spirit of spirits, would never bear the indignity of working with either these ridiculous creatures who have, like dogs, collars around their necks, or the very vulgar matter that they distribute with their grubby little hands.  Such matters can infuriate even the most experienced of tempters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such continued indignities certainly demand our redoubled efforts, Wormwood, so let me point out a few fundamental tactics that have proved useful with these vile creatures.  These are tricks of our own that have worked particularly well for apprentice tempters like yourself, simple techniques that we initially tried with that crude showoff Elijah, who unfortunately eluded us after that regrettable setback at Mount Carmel. We have now employed these same tactics in other cases with great success for centuries, thus rendering many of these set-apart servants of the Enemy completely useless to Him, and consequently, delivering innumerably more of these two-footed beasts safely into the eager hands of Our Father Below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;i&gt;“Now Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, and how he had killed all the prophets with the sword. Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying, ‘So may the gods do to me and even more, if I do not make your life as the life of one of them by tomorrow about this time.’"&lt;/i&gt; (1 Kings 19:1-2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpY_eksRi2I/AAAAAAAAAE4/NYj9YsnXoKE/s1600-h/srewtape_secret2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpY_eksRi2I/AAAAAAAAAE4/NYj9YsnXoKE/s200/srewtape_secret2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5086322623639554914" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;First and foremost, Wormwood, you must avoid frontal assaults. You must &lt;b&gt;work in secret&lt;/b&gt;, preferably behind the facade of the thoroughly amusing piousness that so many of our people in the Enemy's camp wear with pride. Try to find some domineering wives and hen-pecked husbands, like the Ahab and Jezebel that even now, our master continues to relish below.  There are thousands of these useful specimens within the Enemy's camp, and if you really wish to truly &lt;i&gt;enjoy&lt;/i&gt; your patient, then by all means find yourself such a couple with an abundance of that most helpful and amusing of our virtues: &lt;i&gt;niceness.&lt;/i&gt;  Even I smile to think of the deeds done for Our Father Below in the name of the Enemy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;i&gt;“And he was afraid and arose and ran for his life and came to Beersheba, which belongs to Judah, and left his servant there. But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree...”&lt;/i&gt; (1 Kings 19:3-4a)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpY_vEsRi3I/AAAAAAAAAFA/Smftdkpu79w/s1600-h/screwtape_juniper.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpY_vEsRi3I/AAAAAAAAAFA/Smftdkpu79w/s200/screwtape_juniper.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5086322907107396466" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Secondly, &lt;b&gt;isolate the scoundrels.&lt;/b&gt;  By all means, keep your patient away from other Christians, especially those who are also set apart by the Enemy as stewards of his box of tricks.  Keep him far from all those in the Enemy's camp who might ask him questions that would make your patient begin to think about what they call 'truth'.  Remember how the Enemy asked that showoff at Carmel such unfortunate questions:  &lt;i&gt;"What are you doing here, Elijah?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You must also remember that Light and the lucidity that the Enemy's mere &lt;i&gt;whispers&lt;/i&gt; can bring to your patient must be continually guarded against.  Keep your patient alone and focused on the difficulties that surround him, and by all means, get him to believe that such debilitating solitude is a part of his calling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keep those who would hinder or even undo our work by, as the Enemy puts it, 'loving' your patient, far, far from him.  Secret ballots in voters' assemblies, backroom elder meetings, late-night phone calls 'out of concern', or nasty petitions drawn up in conventicles -- all of these things can and should be utilized, for they all help to isolate your patient 'for his own good' and for the supposed good of the Enemy's camp.  In short, keep your patient and his charges in dark confusion or chaos.  And Wormwood, it is so very &lt;i&gt;delicious&lt;/i&gt; to get the little beasts to actually think that they are being 'bold' or 'compassionate' or 'prudent' in doing these things!  Keeping everyone in the dark like this while feeding their little egos will further our cause in countless ways and&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;increase your own amusement immeasurably!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But by all means, beware of the Light that comes whenever the Enemy gets his little beasts to think and discuss all matters openly and in submission to his infuriating Voice, for then, Wormwood, all is lost. This situation should be your greatest fear, for the Light that the Enemy then brings to bear upon our purposes can foil all of our best efforts!  Therefore, &lt;i&gt;isolate, isolate, isolate!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"He lay down and slept under a juniper tree; and behold, there was an angel touching him, and he said to him, ‘Arise, eat.’  Then he looked and behold, there was at his head a bread cake baked on hot stones, and a jar of water. So he ate and drank and lay down again."&lt;/i&gt;  (1 Kings 19:4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpY_6UsRi4I/AAAAAAAAAFI/1aTWhJ7th8I/s1600-h/screwtape_alone.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpY_6UsRi4I/AAAAAAAAAFI/1aTWhJ7th8I/s200/screwtape_alone.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5086323100380924802" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;You must also learn to use your patient's &lt;b&gt;fatigue.  &lt;/b&gt;Be sure to work on him when he is most weary, perhaps on Mondays or after particularly nasty church council or congregational meetings.  Our near success with that showoff at Mount Carmel illustrates how effectively fatigue can be used against the Enemy's servants; it is at these times that you will most often succeed in getting your patient to dwell upon himself and his present difficulties, rather than that Hedonist who called him, who is likely to simply offer the beast good food and sound sleep.  Above all, Wormwood, use your patient's fatigue and troubles to keep his mind in turmoil and away from that other Mountain that we dare not even mention.  Timing is everything, so be sure to move against your patient when he is most weak and tired.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"And he requested for himself that he might die, and said, 'It is enough; now, O LORD, take my life, for I am not better than my fathers!'"&lt;/i&gt; (1 Kings 19:4b)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpZDUksRi5I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/StI6-EQ-mFM/s1600-h/screwtape_falsebelief.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 156px; height: 156px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpZDUksRi5I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/StI6-EQ-mFM/s200/screwtape_falsebelief.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5086326849887374226" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Finally, you must utilize this isolation and fatigue to accomplish that most important, and frankly, most deliciously satisfying accomplishment of all:   &lt;b&gt;False belief!  &lt;/b&gt;You will find that in your patient's times of loneliness and weakness, that he will believe just about anything.  Even I smile as I fondly recall how we got that showoff at Carmel to whine about not being better than his fathers.  As long as you can point your patient to himself and his troubles, instead of that other Mount that we do not name, then you will most likely succeed with him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Now let me give you one final warning.  As we saw after Mount Carmel, all of our best efforts can fail &lt;i&gt;with one whisper of the Enemy.&lt;/i&gt; The show off! Therefore, we can never rest.  Never assume that your patient is safely won, for even our best of servants, like that miserable traitor Saul, is evidence enough of the Enemy's unfair advantage over us.  He is always so undignified, so unethical, and so scandalously &lt;i&gt;unspiritual!&lt;/i&gt;  Remember:  &lt;b&gt;secrecy, isolation, fatigue,&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;false belief!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I need not mention what penalties will undoubtedly await you, if any future incompetence allows your patient to once again escape into that disgusting Light, that which even Our Father Below dare not look upon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your affectionate uncle,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Screwtape&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6747935503467322657?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6747935503467322657/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6747935503467322657' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6747935503467322657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6747935503467322657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/screwtape-and-office-of-holy-ministry.html' title='Screwtape and the Office of Holy Ministry'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpuC0ksRjQI/AAAAAAAAAII/zgPqT20jgH4/s72-c/screwtapelogo.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5384189325984961089</id><published>2007-07-09T14:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-11T15:05:30.825-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the call list'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the call'/><title type='text'>The "Call"</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I question the godliness of the current call process which can be used as an escape route for a pastor who finds himself in a difficult position shepherding a difficult flock, or who may just be tired of his current situation. It is too easy to just place yourself on a call list or go back to seminary to learn or teach. I do not consider this a valid reason to resign one's current call. In my opinion, such personal motives show a sinful lack of fortitude. We are all called to suffer in our vocations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;It might seem at this point that I am just "pastor-bashing."  That is not my intent.  Keep reading and you will see why I think this is connected to the topic of this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/images/RevH.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 192px; height: 299px;" src="http://www.zionmarshall.org/images/RevH.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;What has happened to the attitude pastors like my&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; great-grandfather had, who&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; shepherded the same congregation for 50 years? I can't even tell you how many pastors we've had at my congregation since he retired in 1946.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe this is another example of the secular culture affecting church culture. It seems an inalienable right in today's culture to switch jobs every few years. Loyalty and perseverance are virtues which have gone out the window. Now what matters seems to be moving around incessantly until you "find the right fit." Then we wonder why congregations get the mistaken attitude that pastors are employees under their authority, hired to entertain them with what their tickling ears want to hear. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;I believe the freedom pastors express in moving about from job to job has fed the problem that exists in honoring the office of holy ministry.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  I believe the clerical collar and liturgical stole have lost some meaning as well due to the freedom expressed by the current call process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not saying there aren't ever valid reasons to move pastors around, but I believe our current call process needs a severe overhaul.  The decision to move needs to be one made by the advice and counsel of those in authority.  It should least of all be a personal decision.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pastors, please, PLEASE, consider your call a long-term commitment. We sheep need continuity!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5384189325984961089?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5384189325984961089/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5384189325984961089' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5384189325984961089'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5384189325984961089'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/call.html' title='The &quot;Call&quot;'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-7230703694506314460</id><published>2007-07-09T11:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-09T12:03:48.276-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sermons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='soundbites'/><title type='text'>Sermon Soundbite:  The Pastoral Ministry Today</title><content type='html'>&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpJ-kjF3sqI/AAAAAAAAAD8/NYybTcuiMHk/s1600-h/zimmerman.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpJ-kjF3sqI/AAAAAAAAAD8/NYybTcuiMHk/s320/zimmerman.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5085266095614964386" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ctsfw.edu/admission/staff/index.php#zimmerman"&gt;Rev. Thomas Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Admissions Office&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Concordia Theological Seminary&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Sound Bite:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/SOUNDBITE_2007_07_08.mp3"&gt;The office of holy ministry today&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div face="trebuchet ms" style="text-align: center;"&gt;                           &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p  style="text-align: center;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/2007/SERMON%202007_07_08%20.mp3"&gt;Entire sermon (13:47)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div face="trebuchet ms" style="text-align: center;"&gt;                           &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p  style="text-align: center;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Text:  &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2010:1-20;&amp;version=49;"&gt;Luke 10:1-20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-7230703694506314460?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/7230703694506314460/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=7230703694506314460' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7230703694506314460'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/7230703694506314460'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/sermon-soundbite-pastoral-ministry.html' title='Sermon Soundbite:  The Pastoral Ministry Today'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpJ-kjF3sqI/AAAAAAAAAD8/NYybTcuiMHk/s72-c/zimmerman.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6519153062801436662</id><published>2007-07-07T23:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-07T19:59:31.663-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Quote for the Day:  Martin Luther</title><content type='html'>&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s200/quotationmark.gif" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655084977500802" /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s1600-h/quotationmarkclose.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS8DF3spI/AAAAAAAAAD0/kanMqElMtJs/s200/quotationmarkclose.gif" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5084655170876846738" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s1600-h/quotationmark.gif"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0); font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; I hope, indeed, that believers, those who want to be called Christians, know very well that the spiritual estate [&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;the office of the ministry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;] has been established and instituted by God, not with gold or silver but with the precious blood and bitter death of his only Son, our Lord Jesus Christ [1 Pet. 1:18-19]...  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);  font-style: italic;font-family:'trebuchet ms';"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);  font-style: italic;font-family:'trebuchet ms';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;He paid dearly that men might everywhere have this office of preaching, baptizing, loosing, binding, giving the sacrament, comforting, warning, and exhorting with God's word, and whatever else belongs to the pastoral office...  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);  font-style: italic;font-family:'trebuchet ms';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);  font-style: italic;font-family:'trebuchet ms';"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Indeed, it is only because of the spiritual estate that the world stands and abides at all; if it were not for this estate, the world would long since have gone down to destruction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Martin Luther&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;qtd. in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Why-Am-Lutheran-Jesus-Center/dp/0758605145/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-2634123-9646407?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;qid=1183499497&amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Why I am a Lutheran&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt; by Daniel Preus, pp. 168-169&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6519153062801436662?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6519153062801436662/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6519153062801436662' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6519153062801436662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6519153062801436662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/quote-for-day-martin-luther.html' title='Quote for the Day:  Martin Luther'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RpBS3DF3soI/AAAAAAAAADs/IqGxsJY5Lu8/s72-c/quotationmark.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6589124955850574086</id><published>2007-07-07T06:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-07T11:36:42.717-07:00</updated><title type='text'>What's Wrong With a Lamb's Message?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;One of the comments from my last post - from my wife - asked what is wrong with a lamb's message. I must admit that I just threw that in there as an example of something confessional Lutherans seem to disagree with. I got this idea just from reading other blogs. Can someone more knowledgeable give an answer to this question? Why do confessional Lutherans have an aversion to a lamb's message?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6589124955850574086?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6589124955850574086/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6589124955850574086' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6589124955850574086'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6589124955850574086'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/whats.html' title='What&apos;s Wrong With a Lamb&apos;s Message?'/><author><name>E. Rapp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11584423417717060308</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2488325704360497761</id><published>2007-07-03T14:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-04T15:40:14.068-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quote for the Day'/><title type='text'>Quote for the Day:  Rev. Daniel Preus</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RowhxjF3snI/AAAAAAAAADk/-Dr5oSifyCY/s1600-h/quotationmarkclose.gif"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RowhkDF3smI/AAAAAAAAADc/RhFCaFiHTe4/s1600-h/quotationmark.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RowhkDF3smI/AAAAAAAAADc/RhFCaFiHTe4/s200/quotationmark.gif" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5083474982583382626" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RowhxjF3snI/AAAAAAAAADk/-Dr5oSifyCY/s200/quotationmarkclose.gif" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5083475214511616626" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0); font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;W&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;hen pastors and laypeople truly understand the nature of the office of the holy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; ministry, God is gloried by His people and Zion experiences God's peace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;Daniel Preus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Why-Am-Lutheran-Jesus-Center/dp/0758605145/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-2634123-9646407?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1183499497&amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Why I am a Lutheran&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;, p. 177&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2488325704360497761?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2488325704360497761/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2488325704360497761' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2488325704360497761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2488325704360497761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/ohm-quote.html' title='Quote for the Day:  Rev. Daniel Preus'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RowhkDF3smI/AAAAAAAAADc/RhFCaFiHTe4/s72-c/quotationmark.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5666588041977663655</id><published>2007-07-02T11:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-05T03:46:47.827-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='types of pastors'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stay or go?'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communicating with pastors'/><title type='text'>What about the Middle-of-the-Road Pastor?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rooz6TF3sdI/AAAAAAAAACM/XYb0o63orto/s1600-h/middle.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rooz6TF3sdI/AAAAAAAAACM/XYb0o63orto/s200/middle.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5082932206091350482" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;The point of this blog is to, as Erich put it below, is to "search out how we should honor the office of Holy Ministry and the individuals who hold it."  The assumption seems to be that one's pastor is strongly confessional so that the angle is how a layman should support his pastor in his difficulties and pressures coming from his own congregation, maybe his circuit, as well as the ways of the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;But what if one has a pastor who is ‘middle of the road’?  He doesn’t do anything crazy, like dress up in a wookie costume; he doesn’t have a praise band; he does the liturgy and preaches from the lectionary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But maybe he does little things that would make a confessional Lutheran wince:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;  He doesn't do the liturgy straight from the hymnal, but tinkers with it a little and prints the entire service out in the bulletin. He does a 'lambs message' during the service.  He doesn't offer a set time for private confession and absolution although he would give it to you if asked. Maybe you've heard him say, "I'm not a theologian," by which he probably means "I'm not an academic."  Maybe his sermons don't measure up to the good examples reviewed on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Issues, Etc.&lt;/span&gt;, but you do hear the gospel.  Maybe there are countless other things that might give a confessional blogger cause for concern, but again, as Erich says below, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;"There are very few biblical reasons to remove a pastor from office... Unless a pastor is guilty of one of these offenses, it is not Christian to oppose him. And not only are we not to oppose him, we are to honor him!"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Well, shouldn't this guy be honored too then? I suppose a response would be, 'Just leave. Find another church," but would that be right, if we are to take seriously the Fourth Commandment as it is expounded by the Large Catechism? I'm not going to leave my temporal father just because he didn't do as good a job as my best friend's father down the road.  Nobody's perfect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Perhaps the best way to honor this pastor is to gently admonish him.  How does a layman do that?  I'm not sure I'm as interested in hearing an answer from a pastor because he is not in the same situation. His view will always be as one pastor to another. I'd rather hear an answer from a layman. How should a layman confront his pastor on such matters?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5666588041977663655?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5666588041977663655/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5666588041977663655' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5666588041977663655'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5666588041977663655'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-about-middle-of-road-pastor.html' title='What about the Middle-of-the-Road Pastor?'/><author><name>E. Rapp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11584423417717060308</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Rooz6TF3sdI/AAAAAAAAACM/XYb0o63orto/s72-c/middle.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2908189464557624184</id><published>2007-07-02T06:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-20T06:31:06.964-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual abuse'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='types of pastors'/><title type='text'>The Spritually Abused and the OHM</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="FONT-FAMILY: lucida grande" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RokPhTF3sbI/AAAAAAAAAB8/u3kpreT3MYk/s1600-h/Refugees.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; FLOAT: left; CURSOR: pointer" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5082610719199310258" border="0" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RokPhTF3sbI/AAAAAAAAAB8/u3kpreT3MYk/s200/Refugees.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"&gt;Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201:17;&amp;amp;version=49;"&gt;James 1:17&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please do not misunderstand the title of this blog. There are certainly times to question and confront pastors in a way &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/honoring-spiritual-fathers-under-4th.html"&gt;consistent with the Fourth Commandment.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;In fact, we are commanded to do so, especially husbands and fathers, as the heads of our respective households. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the late 1990's, my wife and I were manipulated and spiritually abused by our 'Lutheran' pastor who would scream threats from the pulpit that if anyone questioned whether the Holy Spirit was speaking through him, that the 'Angel of Death' would come for us and our children. At times he could be winsome and funny, but other times he would flip some switch and then tears would roll down his face and words flow out of his mouth that made him sound like a prophet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RokPYTF3saI/AAAAAAAAAB0/l6IDAiVLQLg/s1600-h/child+abuse.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;There is a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-WEIGHT: boldfont-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;violation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt; involved in spiritual abuse that is much like child abuse. &lt;a href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/honoring-spiritual-fathers-under-4th.html"&gt;Spiritual fathers&lt;/a&gt; are not supposed to use and abuse the souls that have been entrusted to them. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;It is embarrassing to admit that I fell for such things back then, but I did. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;Christians who have not been taught to discern, through biblical &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;catechesis,&lt;/span&gt; are 'tossed this way and that by every wind of doctrine' and are, more often than not, vulnerable to such deception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When people, by God's grace, escape toxic, abusive faith systems -- churches or groups that they had assumed were Christian because they bore or used the name of Jesus -- then these dear refugees might very well be filled with fear and/or anger at the mere suggestion that pastors be honored. Yeah, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;right! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;There are quite a few books today about spiritual abuse, but most of them have therapeutic or self-help approaches to recovery that are not principally &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_1" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;catechetical&lt;/span&gt;. There might be much truth and helpful advice, but good law &amp;amp; Gospel preaching, life-giving &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_2" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;catechesis&lt;/span&gt;, and the right administration of the sacraments are not identified as the chief antidote to the spiritual wounds and despair that the abused carry with them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, if one reads online forums for the spiritual abused, there is often a great deal of anger or contempt toward 'organized religion' which makes it very difficult to speak to the abused about, for example, the need for the office of holy ministry. Those who do not completely leave the church often end up in home churches or fellowship groups that have no formally trained and ordained clergy and where they might just encounter &lt;a href="http://www.eurobooks.nl/english.html"&gt;more weirdness&lt;/a&gt; or perhaps even more abuse. The Who's &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Won%27t_Get_Fooled_Again"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"&gt;Won't Get Fool Again&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; comes to mind: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as I know, there are no books that gently introduce Reformation theology as 'a balm in Gilead' to this particular hurting and hidden audience. To Christians who have been abused by individuals within the office of holy ministry, such a book could show, in part, that the OHM is a good gift from God, one that can and should bring healing and forgiveness to them. I am convinced that such a book is needed today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To those readers who might have that fear and/or anger towards pastors that I mentioned earlier, let me say this: I know that many men within the ranks of the office of holy ministry have let &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_3" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;parishioners&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt; down or even used them to their own selfish ends. I know that spiritual abuse occurs, for I have experienced it myself. But &lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"&gt;the abuse of something does not invalidate its proper use,&lt;/span&gt; and the office of holy ministry is a great and wonderful gift of God to all of us, through which Christ can bring us his healing and forgiveness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;"A bruised reed He will not break and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"&gt;a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Isaiah 42:3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5082610564580487586" border="0" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RokPYTF3saI/AAAAAAAAAB0/l6IDAiVLQLg/s200/child+abuse.jpg" style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'trebuchet ms';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="FONT-FAMILY: lucida grande"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2908189464557624184?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2908189464557624184/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2908189464557624184' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2908189464557624184'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2908189464557624184'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/07/spritually-abused-and-pastors.html' title='The Spritually Abused and the OHM'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RokPhTF3sbI/AAAAAAAAAB8/u3kpreT3MYk/s72-c/Refugees.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3179395864104921424</id><published>2007-06-30T20:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-03T05:26:08.529-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastor envy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vocation'/><title type='text'>The Pastoral Office and the Lutheran Blogosphere</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Roo91DF3sfI/AAAAAAAAACc/r-l7b753fXw/s1600-h/garbagetruck.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 182px; height: 136px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Roo91DF3sfI/AAAAAAAAACc/r-l7b753fXw/s320/garbagetruck.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5082943111013315058" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Originally published on May 1, 2007 at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.blogger.com/www.theunknownlutheran.blogspot.com"&gt;www.theunknownlutheran.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ok, let's just admit the problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you were a kid and the garbage man drove by in his garbage truck, you wanted to be a garbage man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can you imagine being a fireman? They drive the cool truck around and most of the day they hang out with the boys playing cards and taking turns cooking in the kitchen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or see the cool plane in the sky? Man it would be awesome to fly one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So you are older now. You have three cubicle walls you face everyday, maybe 3.5 if you are lucky. Or you are working on an assembly line somewhere. Or you see this patient or that client about some issue that they have, that probably isn't so serious anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some time in the last five years you finally woke up from the beer induced stupor of your college years and realized that you are baptized. You started planning your early/late church attendance around the communion schedule. You managed to get your sorry carcass to confession. Then you found another church that offers communion at every divine service. You finally read the Book of Concord and have built a small library of theological books. The 12 years of Lutheran school, no longer seems so Lutheran anymore. And every morning on the way to work you say to yourself, "I wish I was a pastor. I wish I could baptize. I wish I could preach. I wish I could put our Lord's Body and Blood into the mouths of my brothers and sisters in Christ. I wish I could absolve. I wish I could commend the dying."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And in truth, you are the same kid, sitting on the front porch wanting to be a garbage man.... Only looking at the big truck and not noticing the dirty work that goes into filling it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A former Lutheran pastor once told me: "Most times, I preach the sermon that I need to hear."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have just done the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3179395864104921424?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3179395864104921424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3179395864104921424' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3179395864104921424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3179395864104921424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/pastoral-office-and-lutheran.html' title='The Pastoral Office and the Lutheran Blogosphere'/><author><name>The Unknown Lutheran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15599227391602440852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/Roo91DF3sfI/AAAAAAAAACc/r-l7b753fXw/s72-c/garbagetruck.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3631328403587542987</id><published>2007-06-29T17:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-01T14:29:45.527-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='contributors'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homiletics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eric and Polly'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='music'/><title type='text'>Meet Eric and Polly Rapp:  'Hey, Preacher Man!'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;It brings salvation to those who believe!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Tell me I'm a sinner and Christ died for me!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I don't want to know what you did last week on your summer vacation,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;What you saw and where you went or how much it cost!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Instead won't you tell me all the words that give me salvation,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;How He lived and how He died for me on the cross!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Give me the good news of God's only Son!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Give me His body and give me His blood!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I don't want to hear about new ideas you learned while in seminary,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Higher critics and Marcus Borg or John Shelby Spong!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Please don't invite those learned men to preach in our sanctuary,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;They're wise to men but fools to God, and such fools are wrong!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Not human wisdom, just tell it to me straight!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preach man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Let me know I'm foolish and lead me to the gate!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I don't want to hear an opinion piece on the news of political parties&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Democrat or Republican, to Him it's all the same!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Please don't tell me how I have to vote to earn the Father's favor,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;There's nothing I can do for that, 'cause Christ did everything!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Tell me of the God-Man who bore all the blame!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, preacher man, give me the Gospel,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;When you preach the Gospel, you shouldn't be ashamed!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;~Eric Rapp&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.ericandpollyrapp.com/images/otherpromopic.jpg" style="text-decoration: none; font-family: lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; text-decoration: underline; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px;" src="http://www.ericandpollyrapp.com/images/otherpromopic.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;"&gt;Meet Eric and Polly Rapp!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ericandpollyrapp.com/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Web Site&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://rappfiles.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Erich's Blog&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center;font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I never thought, in my wildest dreams, that I would be hearing beautiful music like this--a song--you know, you ask the average Christian artist, "Oh, can you write a song about the scripture's doctrine of vocation?" and they'd laugh in your face. You've managed to do it ... and beautifully so!... I will say without qualification ... you express [the Gospel] as clearly and ... more eloquently and succinctly than I manage to do on the air most times.... I cannot say "thank you" in grand enough terms for you guys' taking what you guys have heard on this program and putting it so beautifully to music. Thank you to both of you!"  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;~Pastor Todd Wilken, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.kfuoam.org/Issues_ETC/ie_05_24_07.htm"&gt;Issues, Etc., May 25, 2007&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"You guys are GREAT! Keep up the music!!!!"  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;~Pastor William Weedon, May 22, 2007&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="entry"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3631328403587542987?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3631328403587542987/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3631328403587542987' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3631328403587542987'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3631328403587542987'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/meet-eric-and-polly-rapp-hey-preacher.html' title='Meet Eric and Polly Rapp:  &apos;Hey, Preacher Man!&apos;'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-5018122581226203720</id><published>2007-06-29T09:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-29T13:04:29.208-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preach the word'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='compromise'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sirens'/><title type='text'>The Daunting Task Pastors Face</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: lucida grande;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU2dDF3sRI/AAAAAAAAAAs/tt9CiI4Zvnk/s1600-h/sirens.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU2dDF3sRI/AAAAAAAAAAs/tt9CiI4Zvnk/s400/sirens.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5081527627231506706" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Erich &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: lucida grande;" href="http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/honoring-spiritual-fathers-under-4th.html"&gt;warned us in his last post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt; that "today's laity typically thinks of the pastor as an employee under the congregation's authority, hired to entertain them with what their tickling ears want to hear." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Several years ago, I heard a pastor read a quotation about the difficulties and temptations of the Office of Holy Ministry.  Apparently, this pastor had been installed by his old professor and mentor, &lt;a href="http://www.ctsfw.edu/academics/faculty/pless.php"&gt;John T. Pless&lt;/a&gt;, Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry and Missions and Director of Field Education at Concordia Theological Seminary. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Pastor Pless read some very wise, biblical words of warning to him:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;We are going to ordain you to this ministry, and we want your vow that you will stick to it. This is not a temporary job assignment but a way of life that we need lived out in our community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know you are launched on the same difficult belief venture in the same dangerous world as we are. We know your emotions are as fickle as ours, and your mind is as tricky as ours. That is why we are going to ordain you and why we are going to exact a vow from you. We know there will be days and months, maybe even years, when we won’t feel like believing anything and won’t want to hear it from you. And we know there will be days and weeks and maybe even years when you won’t feel like saying it. It doesn’t matter. Do it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You are ordained to this ministry, vowed to it. There may be times when we come to you as a committee or delegation and demand that you tell us something else than what we are telling you now. Promise right now that you won’t give in to what we demand of you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You are not the minister of our changing desires, or our secularized hopes for something better. With these vows of ordination we are lashing you to the mast of Word and sacrament so you will be unable to respond to the siren voices. There are many other things to be done in this wrecked world, and we are going to be doing at least some of them, but if we don’t know the foundational realities with which we are dealing - God, kingdom, gospel - we are going to end up living futile, fantasy lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your task is to keep telling the basic story, representing the presence of the Spirit, insisting on the priority of God, speaking the biblical words of command, promise, and invitation. (Eugene Peterson, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Contemplative-Pastor-Returning-Spiritual-Direction/dp/0802801145"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;The Contemplative Pastor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;, p. 145)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;As we consider how we might 'support, encourage, and defend' our pastors, it might be good for us to remember the daunting task that they face in their ministry of preaching Law and Gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Old Adam is in each of us, and we all might be tempted to sing the siren song once in a while.  Sometimes we would hear what we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;want&lt;/span&gt;, rather than what we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;need&lt;/span&gt;.  Praise God for men who ignore the sirens, and may God's grace continue to sustain them!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-5018122581226203720?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5018122581226203720/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=5018122581226203720' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5018122581226203720'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/5018122581226203720'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/daunting-task-pastors-face.html' title='The Daunting Task Pastors Face'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU2dDF3sRI/AAAAAAAAAAs/tt9CiI4Zvnk/s72-c/sirens.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2472267455303582008</id><published>2007-06-28T17:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-20T08:19:31.370-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='judgement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fourth Commandment'/><title type='text'>Honoring Spiritual Fathers Under the 4th Commandment</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.levitt.com/hebrew/commandment_05.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 259px; height: 227px;" src="http://www.levitt.com/hebrew/commandment_05.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In the Large Catechism, which we are all bound to as Lutherans to accept as a right exposition of the Word of God, Luther provides this explanation of how to apply the Fourth Commandment to our treatment of pastors [emphases mine]:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;158] Thus we have two kinds of fathers presented in this commandment, fathers in blood and fathers in office, or those to whom belongs the care of the family, and those to whom belongs the care of the country. Besides these there are yet spiritual fathers; not like those in the Papacy, who have indeed had themselves called thus, but have performed no function of the paternal office. For those only are called spiritual fathers who govern and guide us by the Word of God; 159] as St. Paul boasts his fatherhood 1 Cor. 4, 15, where he says: In Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel. Now, 160] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;since they are fathers they are entitled to their honor, &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;even above all others&lt;/span&gt;. But here it is bestowed least; for the way which the world knows for honoring them is to drive them out of the country and to grudge them a piece of bread, and, in short, they must be (as says St. Paul, 1 Cor. 4, 13) as the filth of the world and everybody's refuse and footrag.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;161] Yet there is need that this also be urged upon the populace, that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;those who would be Christians are under obligation in the sight Of God to esteem them worthy of double honor who minister to their souls, that they deal well with them and provide for them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; For that, God is willing to add to you sufficient blessing and will not let you come to want. 162] But in this matter every one refuses and resists, and all are afraid that they will perish from bodily want, and cannot now support one respectable preacher, where formerly they filled ten fat paunches. 163] In this we also deserve that God deprive us of His Word and blessing, and again allow preachers of lies to arise to lead us to the devil, and, in addition, to drain our sweat and blood.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;164] But those who keep in sight God's will and commandment have the promise that everything which they bestow upon temporal and spiritual fathers, and whatever they do to honor them, shall be richly recompensed to them, so that they shall have, not bread, clothing, and money for a year or two, but long life, support, and peace, and shall be eternally rich and blessed. 165] Therefore only do what is your duty, and let God take care how He is to support you and provide for you sufficiently. Since He has promised it, and has never yet lied, He will not be found lying to you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;166] This ought indeed to encourage us, and give us hearts that would melt in pleasure and love toward those to whom we owe honor, so that we would raise our hands and joyfully thank God who has given us such promises, for which we ought to run to the ends of the world [to the remotest parts of India]. For although the whole world should combine, it could not add an hour to our life or give us a single grain from the earth. But God wishes to give you all exceeding abundantly according to your heart's desire. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;He who despises and casts this to the winds is not worthy ever to hear a word of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt; This has now been stated more than enough for all who belong under this commandment.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Let me reiterate:  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;"T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);font-family:arial;" &gt;hose who would be Christians are under obligation in the sight Of God to esteem them worthy of double honor who minister to their souls, that they deal well with them and provide for them.  And  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;he who despises and casts this to the winds is not worthy ever to hear a word of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's a pretty uncommon sentiment in today's egalitarian culture.   Today's laity typically thinks of the pastor as an employee under the congregation's authority, hired to entertain them with what their tickling ears want to hear. While the congregation has the collective authority to call a pastor, once called he is to be considered "worthy of double honor."  There are very few biblical reasons to remove a pastor from office, which is reflected in most congregational constitutions.  Unless a pastor is guilty of one of these offenses, it is not Christian to oppose him.  And not only are we not to oppose him, we are to honor him!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what does it mean to "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;honor&lt;/span&gt;?"  Again, here is the Large Catechism:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;105]&lt;/b&gt;                    To this estate of fatherhood and motherhood God has given the                    special distinction above all estates that are beneath it that                    He not simply commands us to love our parents, but to honor                    them. For with respect to brothers, sisters, and our neighbors                    in general He commands nothing higher than that we love them,                    so that He separates and distinguishes father and mother above                    all other persons upon earth, and places them at His side. &lt;b style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;106]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;                    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;For it is a far higher thing to honor than to love one, inasmuch                    as it comprehends not only love, but also modesty, humility,                    and deference as to a majesty there hidden,&lt;/span&gt; 107] and                    requires not only that they be addressed kindly and with reverence,                    but, most of all, that both in heart and with the body we so                    act as to show that we esteem them very highly, and that, next                    to God, we regard them as the very highest. For one whom we                    are to honor from the heart we must truly regard as high and                    great.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;They are not to be                    deprived of their honor because of their conduct or their failings.                    Therefore we are not to regard their persons, how they may be,                    but the will of God who has thus created and ordained. In other                    respects we are, indeed, all alike in the eyes of God; but among                    us there must necessarily be such inequality and ordered difference,                    and therefore God commands it to be observed, that you obey                    me as your father, and that I have the supremacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;110]&lt;/b&gt; Furthermore, that also in our words we observe                    modesty toward them, do not accost them roughly, haughtily,                    and defiantly, but yield to them and be silent, even though                    they go too far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;There we have the purpose of this blog, to search out how we should honor the Office of Holy Ministry, and the individuals who hold it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what about those who don't?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;137]&lt;/b&gt;                    Whence come so many knaves that must daily be hanged, beheaded,                    broken upon the wheel, but from disobedience [to parents], because they will not submit to discipline in kindness, so that,                    by the punishment of God, they bring it about that we behold                    their misfortune and grief? For it seldom happens that such                    perverse people die a natural or timely death. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                 &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;But                    the godly and obedient have this blessing, that they live long                    in pleasant quietness, and see their children's children (as                    said above) to the third and fourth generation. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                 &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;138]&lt;/b&gt;                    Thus experience also teaches, that where there are honorable,                    old families who fare well and have many children, they owe                    their origin to the fact, to be sure, that some of them were                    brought up well and were regardful of their parents. On the                    other hand, it is written of the wicked, Ps. 109, 13: &lt;i&gt;Let                    his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let                    their name be blotted out&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;b&gt;139]&lt;/b&gt; Therefore heed well                    how great a thing in God's sight obedience is, since He so highly                    esteems it, is so highly pleased with it, and rewards it so                    richly, and besides enforces punishment so rigorously on those                    who act contrariwise. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b&gt;...149]&lt;/b&gt;                    Whoever will not be influenced by this and inclined to godliness                    we hand over to the hangman and to the skeleton-man&lt;span class="bodycopy" style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" &gt;, &lt;i&gt;i.e.&lt;/i&gt;, death [death the all-subduer,                    the teacher of wicked children]&lt;/span&gt;. Therefore                    let every one who allows himself to be advised remember that                    God is not making sport, and know that it is God who speaks                    with you and demands obedience. If you obey Him, you are His                    dear child; but if you despise to do it, then take shame, misery,                    and grief for your reward.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Notice, however, that it is not our job to carry out this sentence of God on those who disobey this commandment.  They bring upon themselves misery and grief.  So long as we are able, we should admonish and rebuke our fellow Christian brothers and sisters such that they learn to obey this commandment, and so they do not bring the judgment of God upon themselves and upon their congregations.  We need to speak the truth in Love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2472267455303582008?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2472267455303582008/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2472267455303582008' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2472267455303582008'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2472267455303582008'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/honoring-spiritual-fathers-under-4th.html' title='Honoring Spiritual Fathers Under the 4th Commandment'/><author><name>Erich Heidenreich, DDS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='26' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5FuWdxYJ52Q/SwLF3KdbDrI/AAAAAAAAAT4/Z9f5u88e65s/S220/sc016a3b68.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8173521603554747920</id><published>2007-06-28T12:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-30T05:36:17.237-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conviction'/><title type='text'>"In case you haven't noticed, it is now uncool to sound like you know what you're talking about or believe strongly in what you're, like, saying..."</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU42DF3sTI/AAAAAAAAAA8/dpduqDc-_DQ/s1600-h/jelly.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU42DF3sTI/AAAAAAAAAA8/dpduqDc-_DQ/s400/jelly.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5081530255751491890" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Here is &lt;a href="http://www.zionmarshall.org/mp3/opinion.mp3"&gt;a very funny mp3&lt;/a&gt; that relates to Pastor McCain's post below.  I recieved it this winter from my student teacher.  Listen to the whole thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heh, heh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8173521603554747920?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8173521603554747920/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8173521603554747920' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8173521603554747920'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8173521603554747920'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-case-you-havent-noticed-it-is-now.html' title='&quot;In case you haven&apos;t noticed, it is now uncool to sound like you know what you&apos;re talking about or believe strongly in what you&apos;re, like, saying...&quot;'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU42DF3sTI/AAAAAAAAAA8/dpduqDc-_DQ/s72-c/jelly.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-3879250084130114851</id><published>2007-06-28T12:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-29T13:14:05.264-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='men without chests'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='doctrine'/><title type='text'>Beggars All on the OHM:  The Wisdom from Èowyn</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoQKezF3sQI/AAAAAAAAAAk/NnYVtjomcFU/s1600-h/eowyn.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 183px; height: 174px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoQKezF3sQI/AAAAAAAAAAk/NnYVtjomcFU/s400/eowyn.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5081197803807944962" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;I will copy and paste/post this from the dank and dusty &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Beggars All &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;archives due to its &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Lord of the Rings&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt; spin and the related topic:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Women of this country learned long ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that those without swords may still die upon them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I fear neither death nor pain."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Èowyn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you haven't done so already, go on over to &lt;a href="http://paulmccain.worldmagblog.com/paulmccain/archives/013106.html"&gt;Cyberbrethren&lt;/a&gt; and read Pastor Paul T. McCain's post on "pastors" who spout lines like these:  "I'm not really into theology" or "I'm no theologian, but..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know if it's disrespectful to call a member of the Holy Ministry a theological stud muffin or a confessional Jedi Master, but either way, Rev. McCain regularly says things that really need to be said, and in this post he is right on target.  Go on over there and read the whole thing, but if you don't want to make the trip, I've quoted his entire post below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why do I have the picture of Èowyn above? Because I want to paraphrase her words in order to add something to Rev. McCain's thoughts: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;"The laity of this country learned long ago&lt;br /&gt;that those without swords may still die upon them."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sadly have to agree with Pastor McCain's post. There are many pastors who brush aside the meat, potatoes, and veggies of sound doctrinal teaching as well as Law &amp; Gospel preaching because they would rather give their people the jelly donut snacks of theraputic, moralistic pep rally talks. And if this is true among clergy, how much more is this true among the laity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that this pretentious, patronizing, and populist &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;aw shucks&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I just wanna love the Lord&lt;/span&gt; approach to the Word has deep historic roots in America, and folks like &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scandal-Evangelical-Mind-Mark-Noll/dp/0802841805/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-2634123-9646407?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1183144685&amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Mark Noll &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fit-Bodies-Fat-Minds-Evangelicals/dp/0801038707/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-2634123-9646407?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;qid=1183144723&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Os Guinness&lt;/a&gt; have eloquently described this serious problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But life in American Evangelicalism and, alas, in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod has taught me that if I, as shepherd of my family, am unwilling to learn to use the sword of the Spirit to discern truth and protect my family -- if I am unwilling to take up and learn to use the sword myself -- then we, like the women of Rohan, could very well die upon the sword of the Spirit as it is twisted by the Enemy. I am responsible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are Pastor McCain's thoughts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote face="trebuchet ms"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoVdjDF3sVI/AAAAAAAAABM/NuGe9-Zbmmg/s1600-h/coolrose.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 102px; height: 102px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoVdjDF3sVI/AAAAAAAAABM/NuGe9-Zbmmg/s200/coolrose.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5081570611264205138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;"I'm not really into theology."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;"I'm no theologian, but..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are two phrases that drive me bonkers.  Let me explain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot begin to tell you how many times I have heard a pastor preface his remarks this way.  It is a sort of defensive weapon in an argument -- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;"Well, I'm no theologian, but..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; -- and then the pastor proceeds to regale the listener with his theological opinion, or is that a &lt;i&gt;non-theological&lt;/i&gt; theological opinion?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I supposed to be impressed by an&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; aw shucks I'm basically a simple bumpkin&lt;/span&gt; approach to speaking truths about our Lord and His Word?  Count me out!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now don't get me wrong.  I am just as turned off as you are by pastors who have this compulsion to use jargon, to throw around Greek, Hebrew, Latin or German terms to wow and amaze their listeners.  They love to toss out technical terminology.  No, those aren't theologians either; in many cases, they are insecure little boys who have not gained confidence in what they think they believe, so they have to resort to rhetorical game-playing to try to "wow" their audiences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best theologian/pastors are men who can preach clearly and simply so that the most unlearned layman in the church can understand what they are talking about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I suggesting pastors are to be ethereal eggheads whose heads are so far buried in weighty tomes they have no concept what life in the real world is like?  Of course not!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let me now say this:  If a pastor says to you, "I'm no theologian, but..."  -- you should look him politely in the eye, interrupt him gently, and ask, "Oh, pastor, if you are not a theologian, should you be a pastor?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or if a pastor ever says to you, "I'm not really into theology..." -- again, politely but immediately interrupt and say, "You aren't? That's really a distressing thing to hear a pastor say.  If my doctor ever told me that he is not really into medicine, I would find a new doctor."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am dead serious.  We have got to work at stopping this horrible nonsense!  Think for a moment about it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;You go to a doctor, ask his opinion, and he says, "Well, I'm no medical expert, but..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Or you go to your bank to ask a financial question, and the person you talk to says, "Well, I'm no financial expert, but..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Or the pharmacist:  "Well, I'm not really into chemistry, but..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Or the mechanic:  "I'm no mechanical expert, but..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;What would you do?  Would you hang around to hear his opinion?  Would you pay it any attention, if he offered it?  Of course not!  You might smile politely and nod, but you would walk away thinking, "I'm not going back to him, that's for sure!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If a pastor is not a theologian, he should not be a pastor.  Similarly, a pastor who is an incompetent teacher should not be a pastor.  How many times have we experienced a pastor who cannot teach a Bible class well to save his life?  If he cannot, then he should never have been certified to be a pastor.  The Scriptures say that a man must be "apt to teach" in order to be a pastor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, mind you, I am not suggesting that all pastors necessarily are experts in all facets of academic scholarship concerning theology.  But a theologian is not a professor at a seminary or a researcher at some institute.  Ivory tower academics speculating about theology are not necessarily theologians.  A Ph.D. is not the qualification to be a theologian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps part of our problem is that we have mistakenly equated theologian with academic.  But pick up most any academic theological journal and ask yourself, "What in here is really going to serve the teaching of the Gospel?"  Sadly, much academic theology today is just playing to the guild of scholars.  That is not necessarily theology and the academics doing this are not necessarily theologians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pastors must be theologians.  Theologians are men who rightly divide God's Word, properly, carefully and faithfully distinguishing Law and Gospel, faithfully preaching and teaching that Word and fulfilling the duties of their office as pastor:   caring for the souls entrusted to them with the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Accept no substitutes!  Oh, yes, but...you know, well, mind you, I'm no theologian!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Arghhhhhhhhhh!!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-3879250084130114851?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3879250084130114851/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=3879250084130114851' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3879250084130114851'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/3879250084130114851'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/beggars-all-on-ohm-wisdom-from-owyn.html' title='Beggars All on the OHM:  The Wisdom from Èowyn'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoQKezF3sQI/AAAAAAAAAAk/NnYVtjomcFU/s72-c/eowyn.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-2897442587340052517</id><published>2007-06-28T11:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-29T12:42:26.098-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Welcome'/><title type='text'>Herzlich Willkommen!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoVdwTF3sWI/AAAAAAAAABU/UZWQUvPYEro/s1600-h/coolrose.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 105px; height: 105px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoVdwTF3sWI/AAAAAAAAABU/UZWQUvPYEro/s200/coolrose.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5081570838897471842" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;" class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Welcome to Sean, Erich, and Eric!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hey, maybe one fruit of our discussion/study here will be a song composed by Eric about the Office of Holy Ministry as vocation. ;-) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/eprapp2"&gt;More Than Enough&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:lucida grande;font-size:130%;" class="Apple-style-span"  &gt; -- the song on vocation in general -- is certainly my favorite!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-2897442587340052517?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2897442587340052517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=2897442587340052517' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2897442587340052517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/2897442587340052517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/herzlich-willkommen.html' title='Herzlich Willkommen!'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoVdwTF3sWI/AAAAAAAAABU/UZWQUvPYEro/s72-c/coolrose.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-8662723879342445933</id><published>2007-06-28T11:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-28T11:57:15.463-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='OHM'/><title type='text'>Sean the Hot Lutheran:  The Office of Holy Ministry</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/lpfankabe/bw3beerface.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px;" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/lpfankabe/bw3beerface.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: lucida grande;" href="http://lpfankabe.blogspot.com/2006/06/office-of-holy-ministry.html"&gt;The Hot Michigander Organist writes:&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;My father and I have been talking a few times recently about our frustrations with the Office of Holy Ministry, or at least with some of its "officers". On his side, a pastor is promoting questionable programs that are un-Lutheran and encourage some false teachings. Certainly, he is promoting a contemporary worship program that is contrary to the liturgical service of God. He would like to see my former congregation become a mega-church, much like another LCMS congregation down the road. He is setting himself up as the "CEO" pastor, and has not had a large amount of success thusfar. My father thinks the problem is that Pastors are taught that they are God's voice to the world, and that without them, God's work and will would not be done. As a result, this builds an ego and leads to a lot of abuse. In the case of my former congregation, I think that's probably right on the money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The one thing is, pastors ARE God's voice to His people. They are the called and ordained servants of the Word. They act "in the stead and by the command of our Lord Jesus Christ". I want nothing less from a pastor. I think the unfortunate problem comes when pastors cease to perform their duties as Christ's minister and instead do their own "ministry" for God. The Church acknowledges that pastors are leaders of their congregations only as Christ is a leader of the whole Church. Christ was a shepherd, a very slave to His flock. Pastors too are slaves to us, the laypersons. Their shackles are the Divine Service. It is in the context of the liturgy that Christ gives himself in Word and Sacrament, through His called and ordained servant. It is in the liturgy where God's work is done. (Gottesdienst: Divine SERVICE or WORK... these things make so much sense! :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No wonder the first thing a CEO-style pastor will do is to change the Divine Service: The liturgy is their handcuff. They are bound by it to serve the laity and not themselves. The one place where a step-by-step set of instructions does not exist for the Christ's ministry in the Divine Service is in the sermon. There most certainly is a framework in place however that indicates a Christian sermon: It preaches Christ, and Him crucified for sinners. It has Law, which shows man his sin, and it has Gospel which brings Christ to remedy that sin. The Lectionary is no accident or option as well. It is no surprise to me that the Lectionary and solid Christo-centric and Law/Gospel preaching are all thrown out quickly by the CEO pastor also. Free from the "shackles" of the liturgy and Christian preaching, they may take the "Divine Service" in any direction they choose, such as the theology of glory-even their own glory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brings us to my side of the issue: pastors who are being forced from their congregation. Perhaps it's not a lack of respect for the Office of Holy Ministry after all. Maybe congregations don't want their pastor to be their slave. Maybe congregations don't want Christ to serve them? It seems clear to me that any pastor who insists on the historic liturgy, especially when they insist on the many ceremonies that accompany it, is willfully and intentionally asking to be shackled. To be bound and chained to Christ and His cross, and stripped of their own glory. They donn vestments that hide themselves, showing only the Office they hold. They do not choose their own words, but instead speak only Christ's Words. Their Benediction, Pax, and Verba are not their own, but are Christ's. They may not speak their own comforting words, no matter how deeply they as individuals care for their parishioners. They speak only the comforting Words of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this sort of pastor would insist that I do or consider something, I would listen because I know it is of God. If I have any doubt, this is the sort of pastor who would direct me to our Confessions and ultimately to Holy Scripture. He is worthy of our respect and trust, because we are not really respecting or trusting him at all. We trust and respect Christ, and therefore we respect His Office, wherever it is truly carried out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have experience with the former sort of pastor that my father is dealing with. These pastors make their demands on God's people as well. When one questions or has doubt, they are not directed to Holy Scripture or to the Lutheran Confessions, but are called names, put down, dismissed, or directed to human reason or emotional appeal. These pastors are not Christ's ministers. They are their own. What to do with one who has a call and yet builds his own glory instead of being a slave? I have no idea. I find comfort in Christ's Words that He gives to Timothy through His true minister: "Do not let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith, and in purity."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The enemies of Christ seek to depose His ministers, while the enemies of Christ seek to lift up and support the pastors who will not be slaves to God's people. I would not be like them. It is a terrible and tragic thing to unseat one who has a proper call. I pray that Christ's ministers be received joyfully as slaves among God's people, who so desperately need the gifts of Christ. I pray that Christians not despise the shackles which bind our pastors to be Christ for us. I pray that I may continue to receive Christ freely and often from one of His true ministers, a slave to me, for I am the CEO: the CEO of sinners.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;Indeed.  Regarding CEO or Bill Hybels wannabes, I do acknowledge that there are times to question pastors.  The thing is, however, the confessional types who simply unpack God's Law and Gospel and faithfully administer the Sacraments seem to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;welcome&lt;/span&gt; questions regarding the Scriptures, for they stand under God's Word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tim&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-8662723879342445933?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8662723879342445933/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=8662723879342445933' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8662723879342445933'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/8662723879342445933'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/sean-hot-lutheran-office-of-holy.html' title='Sean the Hot Lutheran:  The Office of Holy Ministry'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9167169016714118988.post-6657886136944960818</id><published>2007-06-28T11:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-29T12:41:10.765-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='This Blog'/><title type='text'>This Blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU5LjF3sUI/AAAAAAAAABE/c_nlNUzx4CI/s1600-h/coolrose.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 127px; height: 127px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU5LjF3sUI/AAAAAAAAABE/c_nlNUzx4CI/s400/coolrose.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5081530625118679362" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Remember in the film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8xCI4B1Oy0"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Fellowship of the Ring&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, when Gimli attempts to destroy the one Ring of Power with an 'Argh' and a  swift whack of his battle axe?  He landed flat on his back with his battle axe in pieces.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Frodo, the Ringbearer, needed to deal with that Ring, and his nine companions could merely offer their support, help, and protection.  Tolkien scholars, like &lt;a href="http://www.isi.org/books/bookdetail.aspx?id=09f57f4f-e8a0-4a2b-8457-74e0cc391793"&gt;Bradley Birzer,&lt;/a&gt; have pointed out the prophet, priest, and king imagery in Gandalf, Frodo, and Aragorn, and this morning I see that many faithful Lutheran clergy, much like Frodo Baggins in his role of the Ringbearer, are called to carry a weight that the Apostle Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians 4:13:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;"We have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;How might laymen honor and help those called to 'bear the Ring' of the ministry of Word and Sacrament?  This blog will attempt to foster a fruitful public discussion on the role of laity in the support, encouragement, and defense of faithful ordained ministers of Word and Sacrament who refuse to bow the knee to the idols of our day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/9167169016714118988-6657886136944960818?l=honoringtheministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6657886136944960818/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9167169016714118988&amp;postID=6657886136944960818' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6657886136944960818'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9167169016714118988/posts/default/6657886136944960818'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honoringtheministry.blogspot.com/2007/06/if-by-my-life-or-death-i-can-protect.html' title='This Blog'/><author><name>Tim</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tGzcggl1Ppg/TfX8Z40ayCI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/IcaB6hgHvvU/s220/tim.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cwZH4DK8_Ws/RoU5LjF3sUI/AAAAAAAAABE/c_nlNUzx4CI/s72-c/coolrose.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry></feed>
